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There's a plausible explanation you'll reject. By the time of the 4th application, Page went public with his role as a CIA asset. That presented a problem. MAYBE the FISC would question the 4th application and reject it because Page's role as a CIA source made his connections to Russia less suspicion. Faced with that possibility, Clinesmith chose to falsify the info sent to the Court.
We don't know if his role was or was not in the prior applications, not sure when his FISA warrant for 2014 was actually made public. I don't know why it would matter to make that change the 4th time around. If the FISA court rejected the 4th application based on that omission why would it even matter at that point since they were well into 2017.
We don't know if his role was or was not in the prior applications, not sure when his FISA warrant for 2014 was actually made public. I don't know why it would matter to make that change the 4th time around. If the FISA court rejected the 4th application based on that omission why would it even matter at that point since they were well into 2017.
Page's role as an FBI source was not mentioned in the first 3 applications. You have a mental block preventing you from seeing the significance his role as a CIA asset could have on a judge's decision and why Clinesmith would lie.
imo, Clinesmith won't go to prison and won't name names.
Clinesmith's plea agreement was released to the public today.
Many are saying Clinesmith got his sweetheart deal because he is singing like a canary. Read his plea agreement, there is no requirement for him to cooperate with, or testify in any criminal investigations/prosecutions.
Clinesmith is only required by the plea agreement to do a debriefing for the FISA review process.
It would seem pretty clear now that Durham is not interested in holding people accountable for their abuses of power.
Page's role as an FBI source was not mentioned in the first 3 applications. You have a mental block preventing you from seeing the significance his role as a CIA asset could have on a judge's decision and why Clinesmith would lie.
imo, Clinesmith won't go to prison and won't name names.
I have not seen that mentioned do you have a link. Even if true are you saying the first 3 applications would not have been approved if it indicated he was a CIA source. Back in 2014 he assisted the CIA after they had an approved FISA warrant and informed him that the Russians he was in contact with were spies attempting to gain information on the sanctions.
Clinesmith's plea agreement was released to the public today.
Many are saying Clinesmith got his sweetheart deal because he is singing like a canary. Read his plea agreement, there is no requirement for him to cooperate with, or testify in any criminal investigations/prosecutions.
Clinesmith is only required by the plea agreement to do a debriefing for the FISA review process.
It would seem pretty clear now that Durham is not interested in holding people accountable for their abuses of power.
Clinesmith's plea agreement was released to the public today.
Many are saying Clinesmith got his sweetheart deal because he is singing like a canary. Read his plea agreement, there is no requirement for him to cooperate with, or testify in any criminal investigations/prosecutions.
Clinesmith is only required by the plea agreement to do a debriefing for the FISA review process.
It would seem pretty clear now that Durham is not interested in holding people accountable for their abuses of power.
I want to read what Andy McCarthy and Alan Dershowitz have to say about this.
I would also like to see some legal experts chime in on this, because I can't find anything in the plead deal that requires his cooperation other than a debrief for the FISA review.
I have not seen that mentioned do you have a link. Even if true are you saying the first 3 applications would not have been approved if it indicated he was a CIA source. Back in 2014 he assisted the CIA after they had an approved FISA warrant and informed him that the Russians he was in contact with were spies attempting to gain information on the sanctions.
We've done a few 360's.
This sentence is in both the Criminal Information and Plea Agreement:
The first three FISA applications did not include Individual #1’s [Page] history or status with the OGA [CIA]
I've never said the Court would have ruled differently had the applications mentioned Page's CIA role. I've said it was information that could have affected the Court's ruling and imo that's why Clinesmith falsified the email.
I want a LOT more than this no-name low life to get what's coming. I want them ALL. I want it worked up the chain of command...all the way to Clinton, Biden, and Obama.
I will not be happy until they all pay a big price for illegally spying on a presidential candidate, & a presidents administration.
I demand justice be served, and this ain't it. It's taking way to long too....get on with it already.
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