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Old 06-04-2008, 06:20 AM
 
Location: Huntington, NY
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Old 06-04-2008, 07:28 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Whatever, if you like freedom & you find it compatible with globalization you dont deserve it. We already have a supreme dictator in office & McCain will pick up nicely where he left off.

McCain isn't a conservative, he's as bad as Billary or Hussein any day.
115% correct.

McCain actually benefits me as I'm out of the dollar completely and his "zero fed rate" hyperinflationary policies would make me richer while making every sucker with a FDIC account poorer.

Theft through high inflation is as bad as theft through taxation. Maybe even worse because with taxation at least you KNOW you're being robbed and have some recourse in the form of tax shelters. Short of selling all your dollars and getting paid in gold, you can't hide from hyperinflation and it's a cancer on an economy.

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Old 06-04-2008, 07:30 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Will Dr. Paul be performing free prostate exams?
No, but with either McCain or Obama, many will desperately need the help of a proctologist.
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Old 06-04-2008, 07:35 AM
 
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No, but with either McCain or Obama, many will desperately need the help of a proctologist.
Too true!
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Old 06-04-2008, 10:11 AM
 
Location: PA
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Do you even know what Socialism is? Socialism is a form of government where the government provides the health care and many other services to the citizens and sorry Ron Paul is a sore loser to McCain, what is he gonna do? Declare himself supreme dictator? Don't say what I like either, I love the freedoms we have here? Besides what policies are you going to enforce besides making the United States pull out of every world organization and make us become isolationist? Not a good Idea, bub.
I am well aware of what socialism is.
Our current form of Government supports half the world via tax dollars and miltary arms. We support them and we have major problems at home.
We have socialism in the united states and it provides health care it's called medicare and we have welfare and it sucks. A Progressive Income tax on labor is also a communist and socialist idea. Ron Paul is getting out a message of liberty and the items I listed in the video and original post. The Republican party is fighting over the direction of the party and the country. I would prefer the barry goldwater view of the republican party over the George BUSH view. The United States can pull out of every WORLD Org if it wanted to since we started most of them. Also if the people start voting and start thinking about conservative and libertain ideas again we can be a great nation as intended by the founders.. Ron Paul wants to work with all countries but we dont need special trade deals and agreements. These are corrupt and appear not be benefiting America and it's workers. The most important idea of the OUR revolution is small government not BIG government. BIG Government = Socialism and this has been going on way before BUSH, and Clinton this was going on back in 1964 and even before then. WE would like a constitutional government not a socialist and facists one. If the world orgs are nothing more then socialist ideas and one world government idealogy now is a good time to get out and keep our freedoms. There is no law bounding us to these groups we can talk to countries and have trade and talks without the UN.
I also think we should get out of the business of going to wars for the UN sanctions.
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Old 06-04-2008, 10:20 AM
 
Location: Washington DC
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Will Dr. Paul be performing free prostate exams?
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Why? Do you want to reserve the first spot?
He'll get a bigger crowd and the day won't be a total waste.
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Old 06-04-2008, 10:38 AM
 
Location: South Fla
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Whats practical about current policy? Seems very practicle to let people keep their money, care fore themselves & mind our buisness globally.
Right, the basis of the Ron Paul message is liberty and freedom, freedom for people to do what they want with every penny, freedom for them to own guns without limitations, freedom.

I get that part, as I also understand this would work because the American people would freely give their money to the needy if they had more of it, they would participate in healthcare programs because they would have plenty of money because the government is taking taxes out of it. We don't need an FAA, FDA, public schools, etc. We also don't need any of the millions of foreign workers that build our houses, trim our trees, dig our ditches and clean our houses.

Yes, I agree that the current policies need some serious tweeking, but I can't imagine how Ron Paul's programs could be implemented in our daily lives.

Government services were implemented for a reason, doing away with everything would be chaos.
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Old 06-04-2008, 12:17 PM
 
Location: PA
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Right, the basis of the Ron Paul message is liberty and freedom, freedom for people to do what they want with every penny, freedom for them to own guns without limitations, freedom.

I get that part, as I also understand this would work because the American people would freely give their money to the needy if they had more of it, they would participate in healthcare programs because they would have plenty of money because the government is taking taxes out of it. We don't need an FAA, FDA, public schools, etc. We also don't need any of the millions of foreign workers that build our houses, trim our trees, dig our ditches and clean our houses.

Yes, I agree that the current policies need some serious tweeking, but I can't imagine how Ron Paul's programs could be implemented in our daily lives.

Government services were implemented for a reason, doing away with everything would be chaos.
Where does the Ron Paul message say anything about removing the FAA, the FDA and public schools. Public schools are funded by local tax dollars not the federal government. It would nice to get rid of the Federal Department of Education which is not needed only gives us more problems. The FAA and FDA could be controlled by consumers not the federal government which is lobbyed by corporations anyway. LEGAL foreign workers are fine to do any job just as domestic workers can do any job. I think the issue is illegal workers period. Trust me if a job is to be done legal workers will do it. Problem is most people depend on this system and have no concept of what liberty really is. We will always have some taxes and we will have programs but the amount of programs and taxes we have now is far beyond what is needed. The only reason for implementing Government services is because people believe as you do that we can't do without them. Government never willingly reduces itself... in fact it's the closest we will ever see to eternal life on this planet. Ron Paul wants small government not big government trouble is freedom is no longer in our hands as it was intended to be via the constitution.
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Old 06-04-2008, 12:22 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Government services were implemented for a reason, doing away with everything would be chaos.

Believing in government more than the people. Priceless.

Do you honestly drink the kool-aid that suggests government services were implemented for a good reason?

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Old 06-04-2008, 12:25 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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*sigh* good bye to the United States as the World Superpower, hello civil war.
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