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Old 08-16-2020, 09:42 AM
 
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i think you should be allowed to make as much money as you can.


i have never got a job from a poor person
rich people like giving to charity, poor people cant afford to




we actually need rich people
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Old 08-16-2020, 10:10 AM
 
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America suffers greatly from the long period of time that so many illiterate and uneducated white people were allowed to come to this country "UN-CHECK", "UN-AWARE OF WHAT AMERICAN DEMOCRACY IS"... who came here, chasing wealth by any means, with absolutely no concept of what American Democracy was designed to be.

For 100's of years the wealthy allowed them to come "uncheck" to use the for cheap labor... and sadly they brought their serf groomed mentality, their peasantry mentality, and the back gutter slum cut throat mentality, and too many came from the back woods, with a delusion that money would make them equal to the Royalty status, they never understood but desperately envied.
We are now living with the result of that...

History has recorded all of those things as facts... even as people try and deny it, but what they fail to grasp is over generations this concepts groomed in ignorance has been passed down from generation to generation, until... many have no idea what America Democracy is, They have no Idea why American Democracy chose Capitalism as the Medium of Exchange, They certainly have no idea of why The Preamble is forefront before the Articles of the Constitution.

One can go to any of these type Forums on the Internet, and see examples of that level of Ignorance played out over and over in one liner slap stick idiocy.

The people who are Learned and Educated, moved past the bastardized script that was promoted in the lower levels of the Education system, and learned how to research and find the real truth.

They learned how to understand CIVICS of American Democracy... These are the people who have come to respect American Democracy.


Black people watched for 100's of Years how vile white people can be and some are, and they watched how ignorant so many were to the very documents that established American... and for 100's of Years Black People have had one clear mission which was and is "Freedom For All Equally", and The Agenda of Black People has been to try and push society, to Respect the Declaration of Independence, Respect and Support The Values of The Preamble for All People, and To Respect and Abide by the Articles of The Constitution with Equality and Fairness...

Black people understood this even when white people tried everything to deny black people the rights to read, black people learned of the malice and vile, by being subjected to every abuse of American Democracy, that divulged itself into back and promoting slavery, and they watched white people create every kind of criminal cut throat act for the sake of money and ego and vanity.

Today, Black Peoples point of fact is the same as it was 100's of years ago, which was 'work to Implore American White People, to Respect American Democracy, and the Principle of Equality that is Core To Sustaining Democracy and Critical to The Advancement of Democracy.. and still have 100's of years, white peoples lust for money, has fueled and spread racism's ignorance, bigotry's vile and greed to a level of pure savagery, where they will attack and do any type of act upon and against each other for money, ego, vanity and the desire to hoard something.

Probably the fix for American is Pure Crash! Economically... and technically, we are already a Crashed Nation, We have Debt Greater than Any Country on the Planet and we survive ONLY because the past history is they have "bought out debt".

They won't continue to do so, when they see so many countries improving and creating and advancing, and they see many countries as they build, they built with respect and concern for the Pedestrian Population.
America is too filled with Racism to even began to build a Economic system with the income parity that exist in places like Singapore, (The economy of Singapore is a highly developed free-market economy. Singapore's economy has been ranked as the most open in the world, 3rd least corrupt, most pro-business, with low tax rates and has the third highest per-capita GDP in the world in terms of purchasing power parity. ) or The wage structure in the Nordic Regions where they pay people so people can live, and they have as a result a longer life span within their citizen population.

What is [url="https://www.gobankingrates.com/money/jobs/living-wage-every-state/"]The Living Wage Needed in All 50 State of America[/URL]

(Now, watch a bunch or right wingers come and say, America Can't Afford it", and they say that because the wealthy have groomed them to "self defeat and promote the defeat of other Americans". ) You can't cure that type of Ignorance.

Modern Day Republicanism will keep American as Credit Debt Overloaded Indentured Servants forever if they could. And try to keep black at an even lower level...

This is the Agenda of the Deep State Confederates that have infiltrated our Government System, Federal, State and Local... and until Americans decide they will once and for all... Rid America of Confederacy Ideals and Confederacy Agenda and The Racism and Ignorance it Promotes... America will continue to suffer losses and the people will continue to be victims of the madness of Confederacy Ideology...
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Old 08-16-2020, 10:12 AM
 
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Are you saying people are your slaves and they shouldn’t be allowed make the decisions themselves?
What I wrote explains itself... you can twist it any way that appease you, but it does not change what I wrote.
If you did not understand it, and do not grasp the perspective and context either re-read it or, go with your want of spin to avoid truths that exist whether you face them or deny them...
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Old 08-16-2020, 10:28 AM
 
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All this and a total economic collapse would occur
The OP has to be just nuts or joking. He can't be serious.
I guess troll or a really young person with a “great†idea.
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Old 08-16-2020, 10:31 AM
 
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What I wrote explains itself... you can twist it any way that appease you, but it does not change what I wrote.
If you did not understand it, and do not grasp the perspective and context either re-read it or, go with your want of spin to avoid truths that exist whether you face them or deny them...
I asked you a question. You shouldn't just dodge it.

Regardless of what the end results may be, are people not allowed to voluntarily make the decisions?

If they aren't, they are your slaves or slaves of the government.
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Old 08-16-2020, 10:33 AM
 
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i think you should be allowed to make as much money as you can.


i have never got a job from a poor person
rich people like giving to charity, poor people cant afford to




we actually need rich people
Do you know why the Stock Market was created? If you did, you'd know more than to make such a simple statement.
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The Stock Markets was created so that workers and Other industrialist could invest for the long term, to support research and development, managed growth and support the sustaining of business, where share holders not only helped secure the industry, but secure their jobs and meet the measure to produce and market to provide uninterrupted service to its customers of quality goods and products.
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School no longer teaches this, its teaches "Greed by every means conceivable, including underpaying working and cheapening the quality and quantity of produce and increase the price for less quality and diminished quantity, while speculator play gambling games to profit not from work, but from trading "fiction" for profit.

It's why American will continue its cycle of industrial and business failure.,
Do you know the Titans of Industry in the late 1800's and Early 1900, turned to become philanthropist? They saw what damages were done to society, by the abusive way they used people to build up industry but did not build them in education, Civics education and understanding, and did not train them to learn how to advance themselves beyond being common labor minions, so growth and development became stagnated.

Foreign Countries especially from S.E. Asian and other lands, don't train their people to be "Factory Labor Bots"... they teach them.. the ideals of being Independent contributors... which is why so many come to American and result to "own business' rather than chasing down factory jobs.

and when the Factory jobs dried up, these same people from those various countries continue to thrive, because they built businesses they could own operate and provide services.

One thing in many foreign countries, if you go in a shop and ask for service, "they don't tell you want they don't and can't do"... they tell you what they can do, and how they can do it... and the consumer gets to choose if they want it done.

American business are quick to say what "they don't do"... and "what they can't do"....

In America, Mexican Heritage People and Those from Central America will continue to Thrive in America, because "They don't tell anyone who seeks their labor what they can't do"... they tell you how they can do it, and they ask you if you would like to include this or that. They are "Family Oriented" where they actually value their family and they are dedicated to their Children's where they will make any sacrifice to provide for their children's..
American become estranged from their kids, because of the vanity of the parents and the obsession of the parents to want status jobs, material excess and they want to be an social buttery fly pursuing flattery for material possessions and delusional status titles.

There will be wealthy people always, but wealth derived from delivering quality services, quality products and paying people living wages... is wealth earned respectfully with integrity.


America is Guilty of This:
Proverbs 13:11
Wealth gained hastily will dwindle, but whoever gathers little by little will increase it.

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Romans 4:4
Now to the one who works, his wages are not counted as a gift but as his due.

James 5:4
Behold, the wages of the laborers who mowed your fields, which you kept back by fraud, are crying out against you, and the cries of the harvesters have reached the ears of the Lord of hosts.

Malachi 3:5
“Then I will draw near to you for judgment. I will be a swift witness against the sorcerers, against the adulterers, against those who swear falsely, against those who oppress the hired worker in his wages, the widow and the fatherless, against those who thrust aside the sojourner, and do not fear me, says the Lord of hosts.

Romans 13:7
Pay to all what is owed to them: taxes to whom taxes are owed, revenue to whom revenue is owed, respect to whom respect is owed, honor to whom honor is owed.


Matthew 20:1-16
“For the kingdom of heaven is like a master of a house who went out early in the morning to hire laborers for his vineyard. After agreeing with the laborers for a denarius a day, he sent them into his vineyard. And going out about the third hour he saw others standing idle in the marketplace, and to them he said, ‘You go into the vineyard too, and whatever is right I will give you.’ So they went. Going out again about the sixth hour and the ninth hour, he did the same. ...
Henry Ford, increased the wages of his employees and improved not only their lives but the quality in their work.. their community, the city and the state where they reside.... and society improved in all other areas along with the improved wages.
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Old 08-16-2020, 10:33 AM
 
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What I wrote explains itself... you can twist it any way that appease you, but it does not change what I wrote.
If you did not understand it, and do not grasp the perspective and context either re-read it or, go with your want of spin to avoid truths that exist whether you face them or deny them...
What you wrote is undecipherable butt-spew, and you got it all over yourself.
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Old 08-16-2020, 10:35 AM
 
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Do you know why the Stock Market was created? If you did, you'd know more than to make such a simple statement.

Do you know the Titans of Industry in the late 1800's and Early 1900, turned to become philanthropist? They saw what damages were done to society, by the abusive way they used people to build up industry but did not build them in education, Civics education and understanding, and did not train them to learn how to advance themselves beyond being common labor minions, so growth and development became stagnated.

Foreign Countries especially from S.E. Asian and other lands, don't train their people to be "Factory Labor Bots"... they teach them.. the ideals of being Independent contributors... which is why so many come to American and result to "own business' rather than chasing down factory jobs.

and when the Factory jobs dried up, these same people from those various countries continue to thrive, because they built businesses they could own operate and provide services.

One thing in many foreign countries, if you go in a shop and ask for service, "they don't tell you want they don't and can't do"... they tell you what they can do, and how they can do it... and the consumer gets to choose if they want it done.

American business are quick to say what "they don't do"... and "what they can't do"....

In America, Mexican Heritage People and Those from Central America will continue to Thrive in America, because "They don't tell anyone who seeks their labor what they can't do"... they tell you how they can do it, and they ask you if you would like to include this or that. They are "Family Oriented" where they actually value their family and they are dedicated to their Children's where they will make any sacrifice to provide for their children's..
American become estranged from their kids, because of the vanity of the parents and the obsession of the parents to want status jobs, material excess and they want to be an social buttery fly pursuing flattery for material possessions and delusional status titles.

There will be wealthy people always, but wealth derived from delivering quality services, quality products and paying people living wages... is wealth earned respectfully with integrity.


America is Guilty of This:
Proverbs 13:11
Wealth gained hastily will dwindle, but whoever gathers little by little will increase it.



Henry Ford, increased the wages of his employees and improved not only their lives but the quality in their work.. their community, the city and the state where they reside.... and society improved in all other areas along with the improved wages.
I never trust ANYONE spouting biblical passages. I find that they are beyond insane. And the garbage you pen is even worse. Unadulterated color blow.
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Old 08-16-2020, 10:36 AM
 
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As greedy as some white people are... the result is ... American would be in worst shape than the worst of 4th world nations...

and your comment proves that... because you don't understand the simple fact that "Taxes" is what contributed to the building of this nation.

left up to (SOME) WHITE PEOPLE... they'd only want the road way paved in front of their home, and they would try to remove street lights from any area they don't like, there would be no city governments, and we never would have developed Freeways, or any of the many other things that these same "anti tax types" like to complain about.
First of all, what does race have anything to do with this discussion unless you are racist???

Secondly, if people aren't willing to VOLUNTARILY fund the government, isn't that what democracy is about - people make their own decisions?

Lastly, shouldn't we respect what the free people want or should we force them at gunpoint to cough up the money to build the utopia you want? I fail to see one grain of morality in your utopia.

Oh, you like to quote the bible? The bible said nothing about forcing other people to pay for your needs.
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Old 08-16-2020, 10:41 AM
 
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I never trust ANYONE spouting biblical passages. I find that they are beyond insane. And the garbage you pen is even worse. Unadulterated color blow.
I don't care what you don't trust, I don't trust people who have no respect for the bible's teachings...

so.. delight yourself how ever you choose...
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