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Old 08-22-2020, 12:37 PM
 
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False premise that racial conflicts are zero in Russian and Asian countries.

There is plenty of racism in Russia.... Jews, Asians, Mongol decedents, Tatars, People of Caucasus, Roma, Gypsies, etc... are all targeted for racism.

Russia (and USSR) had plenty of diversity... Asia equally has many diversity... (People of India are also considered Asians).

BLACK. Black is a race. We have tight kinky hair, wide noses, pronounced jawlines, and dark skin. Whites and Asians do not look like black people. All other races have similar hair structure, whether curly or straight, similar bone structure, similar motivations in life. Blacks are genetically far removed from all other races.



Black people are not anything like those you have listed in your post. There will always three original RACES -- white, Asian, and black. And it's questionable whether Asians are separate race but probably some sort of genetic derivative of ancient whites. All others you have mentioned are ethnic and religious groups. There is near zero black/other race conflicts in Russia and Asia because blacks are not in those places in large numbers as they are in the US and UK. The US and UK created their own race problem because of their need and greed to import people who the least like them into their countries. In places where there are 1% or less blacks forced to mix with whites, near zero racial conflicts exist.
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Old 08-22-2020, 12:54 PM
 
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False premise that racial conflicts are zero in Russian and Asian countries.

There is plenty of racism in Russia.... Jews, Asians, Mongol decedents, Tatars, People of Caucasus, Roma, Gypsies, etc... are all targeted for racism.
Even during the USSR time period there was plenty of diversity... Asia equally has many diversity... (People of India are also considered Asians).

The difference is that in the US, we have 1st amendment rights to bring attention to racial conflicts. In many of those countries, you do not and racial conflicts are kept in check via oppression of those that are not deemed favorable to the ruling government. The oppressed cannot rise with out severe consequences.

I also fail to see the connection between racial diversity and government/economic system.
Japan is well-known for having racial barriers against non-Japanese. Of course, they are extremely polite about it, so good for them. Sweden is known for the same thing, it's supposedly very hard to get a job in Sweden if you're not a Swede, even if you speak the language. I forgive them for it of course, because they gave us ABBA.

Tribalism is certainly not new to the human condition, but suppression of it is a rather new experiment, and so far, certainly not a very successful one.

Interestingly, there is a YouTube video out there that documents something very interesting that happened during the filming of the original "Planet of the Apes". Reportedly, cast members started, completely at their own volition, eating lunch together (while in costume) segregated into groups of their respective characters. Chimps ate with other chimps, gorillas ate with other gorillas, humans ate with other humans, orangutans ate with other orangutans. All without being told to do so, or without any pre-planning, they just happened to seek out others who "looked like them" and formed into groups. Friggin' amazing to me, if it is really true.

At my old workplace, which had a very high level of diversity, I witnessed the same thing in the Cafeteria. There was a table full of African Americans, a table full of Indians, a table full of Chinese, etc.. Now, there were other tables full of people of varying races, and I'm sure if I went over to sit at the "black" table, no one would have chastised me for it, but there was no denying that many people chose to segregate themselves by race. I have to conclude that this is how we are "wired".

Communism is an economic and social system whose stated goals can be admirable if laid out in a rather propagandist manner. The problem is, it has never been shown to work. It is an inferior system because it goes against the fundamental human belief that says, "The harder I work, the more I can produce, and the better I can live", which is the fundamental premise of capitalism. Communism is anti-freedom, and anti-nature. Now, it does work in the ant and bee world, but the last time I checked, human beings are not ants or bees. Bmex, please do some real research on this, not a ten minute read on the Antifa website. Educate yourself on it, and then make a decision based on knowledge, not emotion. The sizzle of communism is WAY better than the steak of communism.
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Old 08-22-2020, 01:03 PM
 
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My tenant is from the former Soviet Union. Over the years, we have had many discussions about life in that country.


One point that she has made is that there was a distinction in the USSR. Socialism was the economic system, while communism was its political system.


It was called the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, and the only legal political party allowed was the Communist Party.
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Old 08-22-2020, 01:06 PM
 
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There needs to be SOME form of socialism at least. NAFTAs/ Crony Capitalism/ Trickle down Economics have FAILED MISERABLY except for the select few.

The entire system needs a complete overhaul.
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Old 08-22-2020, 01:14 PM
 
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There needs to be SOME form of socialism at least. NAFTAs/ Crony Capitalism/ Trickle down Economics have FAILED MISERABLY except for the select few.

The entire system needs a complete overhaul.
I don’t think a complete overhaul is needed unless. Are you one of those people who believe they should live and eat for free? Housing is a right? Car is a right? Phone, tv, healthcare, etc is a right? Things ARE out of balance right now, so we do need some laws and such to help balance the power back to the people. This I agree with 100%, but I will never agree with full on socialism. History has taught us that is just bad news and creates worse classisms than mediated capitalism.
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Old 08-22-2020, 01:17 PM
 
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Disgruntled racist white man, is that what you are?
Nope, now answer my question!
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Old 08-22-2020, 01:41 PM
 
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I don’t think a complete overhaul is needed unless. Are you one of those people who believe they should live and eat for free? Housing is a right? Car is a right? Phone, tv, healthcare, etc is a right? Things ARE out of balance right now, so we do need some laws and such to help balance the power back to the people. This I agree with 100%, but I will never agree with full on socialism. History has taught us that is just bad news and creates worse classisms than mediated capitalism.
The U.S. has not been a fully capitalistic system since the Great Depression, after which we became a blended capitalist / socialist system. Even before then, there was strong support for Trade Unions, which are "communistic" at their core. In the 1930's, came the Civilian Conservation Corps (CCC), the Works Progress Administration (WPA), the implementation of Social Security, then Medicare, then Medicaid, Unemployment, and a brazillion other welfare systems in the U.S.A., including whole Governmental agencies (HUD and the Department of Education, for instance).

Bottom line, anyone who can objectively see, knows that the U.S. actually IS a largely socialist country now. Of course, ignoring this may be purposeful, because they want us to slide into communism. The very fact that we have a 23 TRILLION dollar national debt only goes to show the merit of what was predicted by Alexander Tytler:
“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world’s greatest civilizations has been 200 years. These nations have progressed through this sequence: From bondage to spiritual faith; From spiritual faith to great courage; From courage to liberty; From liberty to abundance; From abundance to selfishness; From selfishness to apathy; From apathy to dependence; From dependence back into bondage.”
https://www.americanthinker.com/arti...cy_doomed.html

So, unless there is a huge reawakening and embracing of what the Founding Fathers knew a quarter of a millennium ago, we don't have all that much time left. Glad I'm old and got to live my Best Years during the 60's and 70's. Also glad to know I have not lost the ability to sight.
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Old 08-22-2020, 01:44 PM
 
Location: NNJ
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BLACK. Black is a race. We have tight kinky hair, wide noses, pronounced jawlines, and dark skin. Whites and Asians do not look like black people. All other races have similar hair structure, whether curly or straight, similar bone structure, similar motivations in life. Blacks are genetically far removed from all other races.



Black people are not anything like those you have listed in your post. There will always three original RACES -- white, Asian, and black. And it's questionable whether Asians are separate race but probably some sort of genetic derivative of ancient whites. All others you have mentioned are ethnic and religious groups. There is near zero black/other race conflicts in Russia and Asia because blacks are not in those places in large numbers as they are in the US and UK. The US and UK created their own race problem because of their need and greed to import people who the least like them into their countries. In places where there are 1% or less blacks forced to mix with whites, near zero racial conflicts exist.
There are Africans in Russia. The premise of your post is still faulty. No matter the mental gymnastics you perform the premise that there is zero racial conflicts in Asia and Russia is faulty. Gypsies are among the most discriminated peoples in Eastern Europe... and no I don't buy your singling out Blacks because of their hair is a valid point.
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Old 08-22-2020, 01:50 PM
 
Location: So Cal
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I grew up in the USSR, been there, done that, no thanks.

If it came to that, I would face a choice of do I move, or do I fight and possibly die doing so, because there is no way in hell I am living like that again.
These are the voices that should be promoted.
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Old 08-22-2020, 01:50 PM
 
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BLACK. Black is a race. We have tight kinky hair, wide noses, pronounced jawlines, and dark skin. Whites and Asians do not look like black people. All other races have similar hair structure, whether curly or straight, similar bone structure, similar motivations in life. Blacks are genetically far removed from all other races.

Black people are not anything like those you have listed in your post. There will always three original RACES -- white, Asian, and black. And it's questionable whether Asians are separate race but probably some sort of genetic derivative of ancient whites. All others you have mentioned are ethnic and religious groups. There is near zero black/other race conflicts in Russia and Asia because blacks are not in those places in large numbers as they are in the US and UK. The US and UK created their own race problem because of their need and greed to import people who the least like them into their countries. In places where there are 1% or less blacks forced to mix with whites, near zero racial conflicts exist.
Can you cite some scientific data on this, please? Because I was always taught that even human beings and chimpanzees share 99.something percent the same DNA, and that genetic differences between the human races is essentially nil. There is obviously SOME difference, evidenced by the spectrum of IQ among races (with Ashkenazi jews at the top, followed by Asians, whites, and blacks), but "genetically" there is supposed to be very little difference.
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