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It seems while discussing the current political climate, a HUGE amount of people think voting is a right here in the USA.
Really?
Then why do we have to ask the government for the privilege to vote?
How come a person cannot just got vote. The only times Citizen is mentioned in the USCON, has to do with qualifying to hold office, and to vote.
Many do not know that at the very beginning of this place we call America, you could not vote, unless you owned land. Not Real Estate at the time. Actual Private Property.
Why would anyone need to "Register" or need to be a citizen, if it were in fact a RIGHT of the PEOPLE.
It is in fact a privilege for citizens. Not an endowed right.
I have changed a few minds about it, in recent debates with neighbors.
All had no clue, only land owners were able to vote in the beginning. NONE. They thought that was a good idea, both left and right leaning.
Also, I found out, there are more conservative minded people in my small neighborhood, than I thought.
Well, that would make me someone's property, ended their arguments rather abruptly, with a dumbfounded look.
I have learned they are not teaching the USCON in the public schools, or real civics.
Many do not know that at the very beginning of this place we call America, you could not vote, unless you owned land. Not Real Estate at the time. Actual Private Property.
And you had to be male. And white.
That's no secret. There has been a lot of talk recently about women's suffrage and the black right to vote, so I don't know why your neighbors are so ill-informed.
It seems while discussing the current political climate, a HUGE amount of people think voting is a right here in the USA.
Really?
Then why do we have to ask the government for the privilege to vote?
How come a person cannot just got vote. The only times Citizen is mentioned in the USCON, has to do with qualifying to hold office, and to vote.
Many do not know that at the very beginning of this place we call America, you could not vote, unless you owned land. Not Real Estate at the time. Actual Private Property.
Why would anyone need to "Register" or need to be a citizen, if it were in fact a RIGHT of the PEOPLE.
It is in fact a privilege for citizens. Not an endowed right.
I have changed a few minds about it, in recent debates with neighbors.
All had no clue, only land owners were able to vote in the beginning. NONE. They thought that was a good idea, both left and right leaning.
Also, I found out, there are more conservative minded people in my small neighborhood, than I thought.
Well, that would make me someone's property, ended their arguments rather abruptly, with a dumbfounded look.
I have learned they are not teaching the USCON in the public schools, or real civics.
The founding fathers restricted voting to white land owning males. Why did they do this? Many would just look at the racism and sexism of this and see that as the only motivation. While I disagree myself with racial or gender restrictions on voting I do see their intent. The founding fathers wanted a voter pool of productive and educated voters. Today we have people voting that should not be. Uneducated people who do not understand the constitution or how the government works, people who are dependent on the government are voting, in some places people with criminal histories are voting. This is exactly what the founding fathers were trying to avoid. If over half the voters are looking for goodies from the government then we have a big problem. This is exactly why we are facing the prospect of socialism. The question we conservatives should ask is how we can take the good from the founding fathers intent regarding voting while rejecting the 18th century racism and sexism that existed in their plan.
In a functioning republic we need an educated voter base that is committed to American values and personal liberties. We must keep standards on who is and is not qualified to vote. When the founding fathers asks that voters owned property they were saying that a person should have a real interest in the country to qualify as a voter. We should aim to do the same thing today. A few suggestions....
Qualifications for voting that would be sensible.
1. Pay taxes in previous year (aka have a job or income)
2. Be the recipient of NO state or federal welfare (excluding social security which recipients have earned)
3. Have no criminal history
4. Pass a very basic civics exam
These measures would remove most unqualified voters from our roles and they are not racist or sexist in any way. This would protect the intent of the founding fathers and protect the republic from radical leftism. I am aware that this kind of thing could only be done to fix our nation AFTER our side has defeated the leftist completely. Uneducated hand out grabbing socialist are the very core of their base. They need all the voters regulations like these would exclude.
If we restored our government we could restore our nation. Restore capitalism, personal liberties, remove the drugs and crime from our streets and create a more prosperous society for everyone. The first step however is to make sure the inmates are NOT running the asylum. Voting is not a right but a privilege.
The founding fathers restricted voting to white land owning males. Why did they do this? Many would just look at the racism and sexism of this and see that as the only motivation. While I disagree myself with racial or gender restrictions on voting I do see their intent. The founding fathers wanted a voter pool of productive and educated voters. Today we have people voting that should not be. Uneducated people who do not understand the constitution or how the government works, people who are dependent on the government are voting, in some places people with criminal histories are voting. This is exactly what the founding fathers were trying to avoid. If over half the voters are looking for goodies from the government then we have a big problem. This is exactly why we are facing the prospect of socialism. The question we conservatives should ask is how we can take the good from the founding fathers intent regarding voting while rejecting the 18th century racism and sexism that existed in their plan.
In a functioning republic we need an educated voter base that is committed to American values and personal liberties. We must keep standards on who is and is not qualified to vote. When the founding fathers asks that voters owned property they were saying that a person should have a real interest in the country to qualify as a voter. We should aim to do the same thing today. A few suggestions....
Qualifications for voting that would be sensible.
1. Pay taxes in previous year (aka have a job or income)
2. Be the recipient of NO state or federal welfare (excluding social security which recipients have earned)
3. Have no criminal history
4. Pass a very basic civics exam
These measures would remove most unqualified voters from our roles and they are not racist or sexist in any way. This would protect the intent of the founding fathers and protect the republic from radical leftism. I am aware that this kind of thing could only be done to fix our nation AFTER our side has defeated the leftist completely. Uneducated hand out grabbing socialist are the very core of their base. They need all the voters regulations like these would exclude.
If we restored our government we could restore our nation. Restore capitalism, personal liberties, remove the drugs and crime from our streets and create a more prosperous society for everyone. The first step however is to make sure the inmates are NOT running the asylum. Voting is not a right but a privilege.
The system you are advocating for is the tyranny of the minority. Thank god that will not happen here in my lifetime.
-Signed a tax paying, non-criminal, land owning, white, male, Ivy League educated voter.
The founding fathers restricted voting to white land owning males. Why did they do this? Many would just look at the racism and sexism of this and see that as the only motivation. While I disagree myself with racial or gender restrictions on voting I do see their intent. The founding fathers wanted a voter pool of productive and educated voters. Today we have people voting that should not be. Uneducated people who do not understand the constitution or how the government works, people who are dependent on the government are voting, in some places people with criminal histories are voting. This is exactly what the founding fathers were trying to avoid. If over half the voters are looking for goodies from the government then we have a big problem. This is exactly why we are facing the prospect of socialism. The question we conservatives should ask is how we can take the good from the founding fathers intent regarding voting while rejecting the 18th century racism and sexism that existed in their plan.
In a functioning republic we need an educated voter base that is committed to American values and personal liberties. We must keep standards on who is and is not qualified to vote. When the founding fathers asks that voters owned property they were saying that a person should have a real interest in the country to qualify as a voter. We should aim to do the same thing today. A few suggestions....
Qualifications for voting that would be sensible.
1. Pay taxes in previous year (aka have a job or income)
2. Be the recipient of NO state or federal welfare (excluding social security which recipients have earned)
3. Have no criminal history
4. Pass a very basic civics exam
These measures would remove most unqualified voters from our roles and they are not racist or sexist in any way. This would protect the intent of the founding fathers and protect the republic from radical leftism. I am aware that this kind of thing could only be done to fix our nation AFTER our side has defeated the leftist completely. Uneducated hand out grabbing socialist are the very core of their base. They need all the voters regulations like these would exclude.
If we restored our government we could restore our nation. Restore capitalism, personal liberties, remove the drugs and crime from our streets and create a more prosperous society for everyone. The first step however is to make sure the inmates are NOT running the asylum. Voting is not a right but a privilege.
You can take your "sensible" voting qualifications and shove it.
Voting should be expanded, not restricted. Every citizen should be made automatically eligible to vote the day they turn 18. Ballots should be mailed to every citizen, and should be postage paid. Election day should be a national holiday.
Only oppressive regimes engage in voter suppression. Not surprising to commonly see right wingers calling for voter suppression.
You know the amendments are just as much a part of the constitution as the original document right?
How voting worked in 1789 is irrelevant because there has been several amendments that do give the right to vote to citizens over the age of 18
the answer to why do you register is because they need to know where you live so you vote in your Rep/Gov/Senate etc race because you don't have the right to vote in every race in an election cycle.
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