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Old 09-25-2020, 05:25 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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You cant know there is child porn involved if you dont see it for yourself. Eleven and 12 year olds arent toddlers.
There was no nudity in the film except for the girls watching a video of dancers and one girl (18) flashed a boob. Didnt see as much as Janet Jacksons wardrobe malfunction. There was no sex in the movie. But you couldn't possibly know that if you go by someone elses discription.

From yours I would imagine naked 3 and 4 year olds having sex.

I'm sure there are lots of movies out there that make men and adults sexually aroused. Should we boycott them all because some men and adults are aroused?

If you cant watch a move or be about in public without becoming sexually aroused by what you see, your the one with the problem.

If you bother thinking for yourself and actually listening to the writer and director of the film you would know the intent was not to sexually arouse men and adults.

Whether you liked or disliked the movie or would even want to watch it is a personal thing. There is no right or wrong. Its just sad, to me, that so many are passing along others opinions without actually seeing the movie and that so many cant get past the sexualized twerking in the movie to understand the entire context of the movie.
So I forced myself to watch this to see for myself if it could possibly pass for some poorly executed but thought provoking type of social statement.

Deep breath.... if they think showing 10 seconds of her jumping rope with her body covered ...as if she returned to innocence, at the end is worth watching children gyrate, and attempt to seduce men for 1.3 hrs to get a message across is art they can ****right off.

EVERY camera angle, every nuance, EVERYTHING in this movie is a pedos wet dream.

It doesnt show girls acting like girls, it shows children acting like 30 yr old pole dancers who are seductresses!!!!

This piece of garbage has NO INSIGHT, NO DEEP STORYLINE, NO COMING OF AGE, NO ARTZY FARTZYNESS. It is pure, unadulterated pedo bait. Everyone involved should be ashamed, and I recommend you do not watch it. It is so very clearly a f-u to society who dont condone pedophillia, its ridiculous.

I am surprised netflix ran with it. I dont care if its foriegn, let it stay there, damn animals.









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Old 09-27-2020, 03:14 PM
 
Location: Mr. Roger's Neighborhood
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Before public outcry causes "Cuties" to be removed from the Netflix queue, I decided to watch the film this afternoon.

Firstly, it definitely deserved the accolades that it's received. Social media and twerking aside, the director and writer of the film pretty much accurately captured the essence of girls and their behavior when they're on the cusp of young womanhood. The giggles, the aping of what is seen in terms of dress and behaviors in both popular media and those who girls are around in real life, the wanting to be older but not knowing quite what that entails (and its costs), the meanness of other kids, the need to fit in and be admired. Talking about boys and sex, i.e., liking boys, but being totally grossed out by what sex entailed. The misinformation that gets spread about about sex, too. The need to be loved and accepted by one's parents. Even in my forties and of a different race, class, and nationality than the girls in the film, I very well remember how all of that was and how it felt before the word "tween" had entered the popular lexicon. (Thank goodness there was no such thing as the internet back then!)

Social media of recent years has amplified all of those those things and has definitely accelerated the maturation process, but in the wrong ways; this film pretty much laid all of that out there, including just how clueless and helpless the parents of girls can feel when navigating social media, modern "like" culture, and how it affects their children. Keeping them away from it is nigh onto impossible as it's a Pandora's box that can never be closed, only its escaped contents managed.

I could have done with far less of the "up close and personal" shots of the girls dancing, but it's understandable why the director chose to do those shots as it gave the viewers a glimpse of just what the girls see/were seeing when they watched far older girls and women do the very same things in the videos that they were watching. Girls learn very early on that being "sexy" gives them a limited power; that beauty buys popularity, "free passes," and material goods. However, when they behave as Amy did, they quickly learn that that there are negative consequences on the flip side of that currency and the darker side of social media and how it affects reputation even in a supposedly enlightened age. The generally negative reaction of the audience present at the dance competition drove that message home even further. (Not to mention the shocked reaction of her father's cousin Samba when Amy attempted to seduce him in exchange for the phone that she'd stolen from him.)

At the end of the day, Amy was acting out after being faced with what being a woman entailed in her parents' culture with few emotional tools available to her so that she could process it. (I was particularly impressed by how the cleric gently handled the situation between Amy and her mother, by the way. That while God does not give women more than they can bear, her mother still had the option to remove herself from the marriage.) That was a lot to put upon a young girl, bearing witness to her mother's grief, then later her acceptance at no longer being the only wife. That her mother carried herself proudly as she departed for the wedding, while at the same time giving her daughter the gift of choice. The choice to not only *not* attend the wedding, but for Amy to decide for herself who she wanted to be. Amy's going to have choices about which her mother could only begin to dream....and her mother's going to make sure that uses those choices to full advantage.

To me, the ending meant not a return to the innocence of childhood, but an entrance into the beginning of true womanhood, a life where Amy herself will decide who she would like to be rather than her peers, boys/men, media, or the culture of her parents and immediate community.
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Old 03-14-2022, 09:33 AM
 
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Time to bump this thread by mentioning then Netflix double and even triple down about Cuties from what I read on that article.
https://www.themarysue.com/netflix-t...es-court-case/

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Netflix is still dealing with the fallout of the film Cuties getting targeted backlash, with the court case between the streaming service and Tyler County District Attorney Lucas Babin. Back in 2020, when Netflix released a vulgar and tasteless poster for Cuties, which they acquired from debut French director Maïmouna Doucouré, they unleashed an unwarranted firestorm upon her doorstep.

The film—which deals with the reality of young girls, and specifically the lens of a Black Muslim girl, growing up in a Western hyper-sexualized culture—was seen as promoting that kind of culture by people who never saw the film. Politicians like Ted Cruz used it as an example of child pornography.

People who defended the film, including BIPOC critics who actually saw the film, were called horrible names and accused of normalizing pedophilia. The internet did not allow Cuties to be what it is, and all sides, instead, used it as a punching bag for their other causes.
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Old 03-14-2022, 10:08 AM
 
Location: New York City
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The internet did not allow Cuties to be what it is
Damn that internet, refusing to parade little prepubesant girls in prostitute outfits for subscriber views

what has our world come to
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Old 03-14-2022, 10:09 AM
 
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Waiting for the film to be adopted into a GRRRRL POWER!!!! workshop.

Coming to an elementary school near you.

The boys will have speakers from NAMBLA as their education.
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Old 03-15-2022, 08:49 AM
 
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We could said then Cuties put a curse or a jinx on Neflix from what I saw on that vlog posted by Tim Pool alias timcast.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F00Jx1qwQe8
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Old 03-15-2022, 08:57 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Formerly Known As Twenty View Post
Before public outcry causes "Cuties" to be removed from the Netflix queue, I decided to watch the film this afternoon.

Firstly, it definitely deserved the accolades that it's received. Social media and twerking aside, the director and writer of the film pretty much accurately captured the essence of girls and their behavior when they're on the cusp of young womanhood. The giggles, the aping of what is seen in terms of dress and behaviors in both popular media and those who girls are around in real life, the wanting to be older but not knowing quite what that entails (and its costs), the meanness of other kids, the need to fit in and be admired. Talking about boys and sex, i.e., liking boys, but being totally grossed out by what sex entailed. The misinformation that gets spread about about sex, too. The need to be loved and accepted by one's parents. Even in my forties and of a different race, class, and nationality than the girls in the film, I very well remember how all of that was and how it felt before the word "tween" had entered the popular lexicon. (Thank goodness there was no such thing as the internet back then!)

Social media of recent years has amplified all of those those things and has definitely accelerated the maturation process, but in the wrong ways; this film pretty much laid all of that out there, including just how clueless and helpless the parents of girls can feel when navigating social media, modern "like" culture, and how it affects their children. Keeping them away from it is nigh onto impossible as it's a Pandora's box that can never be closed, only its escaped contents managed.

I could have done with far less of the "up close and personal" shots of the girls dancing, but it's understandable why the director chose to do those shots as it gave the viewers a glimpse of just what the girls see/were seeing when they watched far older girls and women do the very same things in the videos that they were watching. Girls learn very early on that being "sexy" gives them a limited power; that beauty buys popularity, "free passes," and material goods. However, when they behave as Amy did, they quickly learn that that there are negative consequences on the flip side of that currency and the darker side of social media and how it affects reputation even in a supposedly enlightened age. The generally negative reaction of the audience present at the dance competition drove that message home even further. (Not to mention the shocked reaction of her father's cousin Samba when Amy attempted to seduce him in exchange for the phone that she'd stolen from him.)

At the end of the day, Amy was acting out after being faced with what being a woman entailed in her parents' culture with few emotional tools available to her so that she could process it. (I was particularly impressed by how the cleric gently handled the situation between Amy and her mother, by the way. That while God does not give women more than they can bear, her mother still had the option to remove herself from the marriage.) That was a lot to put upon a young girl, bearing witness to her mother's grief, then later her acceptance at no longer being the only wife. That her mother carried herself proudly as she departed for the wedding, while at the same time giving her daughter the gift of choice. The choice to not only *not* attend the wedding, but for Amy to decide for herself who she wanted to be. Amy's going to have choices about which her mother could only begin to dream....and her mother's going to make sure that uses those choices to full advantage.

To me, the ending meant not a return to the innocence of childhood, but an entrance into the beginning of true womanhood, a life where Amy herself will decide who she would like to be rather than her peers, boys/men, media, or the culture of her parents and immediate community.
Wow. You should write professional film and book critiques. Interesting.
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Old 03-15-2022, 08:59 AM
 
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Wow. You should write professional film and book critiques. Interesting.
And of course your viewpoint, again, supports the sexualization of children.

Shocker.

You work with kids right???
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Old 03-15-2022, 09:04 AM
 
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The movie is depicting an uncomfortable phenomenon that's ever-present. Shouting down the movie is just a way of turning off an unpleasant conversation.
I agree. This movie appears to be shining the light of day on the problem; it isn't creating the problem.

It's uncomfortable to look at these truths that girls, and most especially black girls, are seen as sexual objects.
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