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Then why were states and individuals continually freeing slaves starting in 1776?
Not the southern states though.
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Originally Posted by ChiGeekGuest
Agree. 60 years minimum, likely more. Those enslaved were considered as property, how many folks give up what they consider to be property? Today? Back then?
60 years or more, maybe indefinitely.
Easily another 60 years. The South would’ve NEVER given up slaves without a war. Southerners loved the beatings, rapes and sadistic behavior that they could commit with pure impunity on a people that they couldn’t handle one on one in an equal situation.
Southern males especially enjoyed the rapes of slave women. That was likely the reason southern males wanted to keep slavery so badly. That’s how sick southern society had become.
The US mended its ways. The CSA was founded for the express purpose of upholding the institution of slavery. It was - as you may recall - the election of abolitionist as US president that kicked off secession.
(That, too, was thoughtfully written down by the Southern Gentlemen.)
I cannot for the life of me understand why people feel the need to defend the confederacy so much.
These are people who broke away and actively rebelled against the union. The tried to break apart the United States and yet Trump and a large chunk of the GOP want to preserve their legacy as some kind of heroism.
they are TRAITORS to the USA plain and simple.
Why do we need a statue in a traitors name, schools and streets named after them?
People say tearing down the status erases history but does it? We don't need a monument to Osama Bin Laden to remember 9/11 do we? Do we need a statue of Benedict Arnold? Lets have a statue honoring the legacy of King George. Ya know they one we rebelled against for independence.
So someone explain, why should the confederacy be honor like AMERICAN heroes
Because Lincoln was the real bad guy and wanted central banks and protective tariffs and forced government education via public schools. The South wanted to secede, as was their right, and Lincoln started a war to get them back. There was talk of secession, even by Northeaster Federalists, by various groups and nobody ever challenged the legality of it until the South finally left.
Think, if Lincoln was supporting stuff like the Colonization Society, was, for our time's standards, certainly quite racist, really wasn't an abolitionist (he didn't run on opposing slavery), and his Emancipation Proclamation only "freed" slaves in Confederate areas NOT held by the Union, yet he's held up as some kind of hero by the Left.
The fact that they want to get rid of the statues and stuff is not surprising. It's what groups like ISIS do when they want to erase history. It's what Big Brother would do in 1984.
Fun fact, the British and France and loads of others were able to end slavery PEACEFULLY without a nasty war. Why were we practically the only ones that ended it with a war that caused the most deaths, per percentage of the US population, in the country's entire history, if the War was REALLY over slavery, like the "history" books claim.
Anyway, it's not like Northerners were so gung ho about ending slavery either. They might have opposed the Fugitive Slave Act in many cases, but loads of the northern workers, including European immigrants, actually strongly opposed the idea of a bunch of freed blacks suddenly entering the workforce and competing with them.
There was no invasion of Virginia. Virginia belonged to the United States. Federal Troops had every right to enter it.
The British Colonies belonged to Great Britain until July 4th, 1776.
I would argue that after our assertion of independence there was in fact a British invasion of what had become the former British colonies.
The only consistent argument you can make for invading the southern states after their independence had been declared is the people do not have a right to chart their own destiny.
Because Lincoln was the real bad guy and wanted central banks and protective tariffs and forced government education via public schools. The South wanted to secede, as was their right, and Lincoln started a war to get them back. There was talk of secession, even by Northeaster Federalists, by various groups and nobody ever challenged the legality of it until the South finally left.
Think, if Lincoln was supporting stuff like the Colonization Society, was, for our time's standards, certainly quite racist, really wasn't an abolitionist (he didn't run on opposing slavery), and his Emancipation Proclamation only "freed" slaves in Confederate areas NOT held by the Union, yet he's held up as some kind of hero by the Left.
The fact that they want to get rid of the statues and stuff is not surprising. It's what groups like ISIS do when they want to erase history. It's what Big Brother would do in 1984.
Fun fact, the British and France and loads of others were able to end slavery PEACEFULLY without a nasty war. Why were we practically the only ones that ended it with a war that caused the most deaths, per percentage of the US population, in the country's entire history, if the War was REALLY over slavery, like the "history" books claim.
Anyway, it's not like Northerners were so gung ho about ending slavery either. They might have opposed the Fugitive Slave Act in many cases, but loads of the northern workers, including European immigrants, actually strongly opposed the idea of a bunch of freed blacks suddenly entering the workforce and competing with them.
Back then:
The Slaver States seceded to protect slavery & the notion of white supremacy.
Slaver states were railing against the Northern states, its people, abolitionists, & eventually Lincoln.
Slaver States were willing to trade State authority to protect slavery for Federal authority to protect slavery.
(In other words, it was about property rights & NOT States' rights. In other other words, they had an extremely unhealthy obsession about owning people as property, beyond all reason.)
WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH
Present day:
Deny the Slaver States seceded to protect & expand slavery & the notion of white supremacy.
Still railing against Lincoln, the Northern states & its peoples.
Still vilify the United States of America.
Still desire secession.
Still desire war.
WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH
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