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Old 08-22-2020, 09:32 AM
 
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Chance and Change sounds like a paid poster from the CCP. Pretty sure we have at least one of these on these boards. Anybody who says China did things right is either incredibly ignorant--or paid to post that. China is an example of what not to do, hiding the seriousness, jailing people who tell the truth, secret mass burials, letting the virus spread to other places. And its not like they aren't having it crop back up in places after killing 100,000 or so in Wuhan.
Nobody said a darn thing about China's Politics, other than YOU... I addressed the civility of the people who respect the science and cared enough about the lies of themselves and others to endure the challenges that were wrought in their lives during their work to contain the spread of the virus.

China as a nation spent and invested to not only spray down all public spaces, and if not for China, we'd still not have any PPE... even for our Medical Personnel
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So, you can rail on about your disrespect for the people of China... yet they continue working producing what we need, because we can't do it ourselves, because we have an Imbecile at the helm of the nation and a brigade of belligerence heathers who can't respect what science teaches.

Chinese people will find their way to deal with their governance.. The same as we will find a way to deal with and remove the heathen savage at the helm of our nation...

China has endured centuries of challenges from the brutality of occupiers, and certainly they will find their way to deal with the tyranny of the dictator they have at the helm. One thing they have done, is continue to build up their infrastructure where it functions for the people. They will emerge with the development of a leader that will embrace the human rights when and as they slowing work to do so, in ways that it does not turn 1.x Billion people loose on a wild greed driven rampage.
They understand the long game... where as we are as insidious as our fictions about the stock market, that can't deal with modest gains over time, they expect to break records by the day everyday, and all they do is destroy companies, peoples lives and make mockery of the Industrial and Business sectors of Society and damage the nation.


Ignorance feeds greed and avarices has destroyed nation and empires over the centuries of life...
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Old 08-22-2020, 09:35 AM
 
Location: Fort Lauderdale, FL
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Biden himself will 'Shut Down' before the Nation does again!


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Old 08-22-2020, 09:35 AM
 
Location: NY
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Making every decision based on what “scientists” say is just as dangerous as ignoring them completely. Scientists are humans with their own biases and funded by special interests. Trump has not done that anyway. In fact, nothing he has said about COVID has been completely outside science. Even the bleach thing, he did not suggest people drink bleach, he was wondering if something like that could be used to kill the virus in people. It’s not such a crazy idea. Imagine if people were not willing to ask similar questions about radiation, which is highly lethal. Now it is used in a controlled form to fight cancers.


The whole point of science is to have differences. That's how it moves forward. I keep hearing "Listen to the experts." Except when the experts disagree with the media, and then it is, tacitly, 'Listen to the media."
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Old 08-22-2020, 09:53 AM
 
Location: West Palm Beach, FL
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He's just pandering to the army of panicked Karens who are cowering in their basements wearing hospital masks while spewing their panic and bile on social media and the internet.

I wonder how long people will let the hypochondriacs run every aspect of American life.
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Old 08-22-2020, 09:54 AM
 
Location: Texas
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The virus has not knocked down a single building, and has not destoned the machinery within a single factor, and closed stores have the same merchandise they had before they closed... Not a grain of sand has been lost from the beaches that was not replenished by the rushing in of the continual tides.

Yet, heathens and savages can't "shelter in place" to allow the demise of a virus that takes lives and prolong the mister... Yet, all the heathens and savages can think of is ... chasing another dollar, when we live in a nation where the material things have remain being in place while the virus exist.

We waste Trillions playing "Bully followed by Give Me" against nations with resources, yet we can't invest in our people... and emerge from this Pandemic making better cooperative agreement through great diplomacy and mutual respect among nations.

The Civility of what is the Plans of Biden/Harris has the dignity to see through to brighter days, and a renewed nation that steps forward to lead with integrity.
hahahahaha at Shelter in place.

The highest percentages of deaths per 100,000 occurred in the places that had the most restrictive lockdowns and they did it early on. New York, New Jersey, Massachusetts, Connecticut. They did it before their peak. So how in the world do the places with the earliest and most restrictive lockdowns have the highest rates? Can you or anyone answer that?

It's up to the governors of each state to take care of covid. The President can lend help but for the most part should stay out. Like FEMA taking PPEs and transferring them to hot spots. We already test more than any nation in the world.

In spite of the crooks in government trying to manipulate the numbers using legacy deaths and applying them incorrectly we know hospitalizations and deaths are both going down.

"Remember the raging spread of the virus in the southern states throughout June and into July? Well, that did not go on forever. According to the CDC’s weekly update on Friday, the number of people in the hospital with laboratory-confirmed cases was lower than it has been since the beginning of the lockdown during the week of March 21, even though we are testing many more people today."

Harris County, Texas includes Houston. July 15 4000 hospital beds used for covid, Aug 10th it is now 2100
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Old 08-22-2020, 10:03 AM
 
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hahahahaha at Shelter in place.

The highest percentages of deaths per 100,000 occurred in the places that had the most restrictive lockdowns and they did it early on. New York, New Jersey, Massachusetts, Connecticut. They did it before their peak. So how in the world do the places with the earliest and most restrictive lockdowns have the highest rates? Can you or anyone answer that?

It's up to the governors of each state to take care of covid. The President can lend help but for the most part should stay out. Like FEMA taking PPEs and transferring them to hot spots. We already test more than any nation in the world.

In spite of the crooks in government trying to manipulate the numbers using legacy deaths and applying them incorrectly we know hospitalizations and deaths are both going down.

"Remember the raging spread of the virus in the southern states throughout June and into July? Well, that did not go on forever. According to the CDC’s weekly update on Friday, the number of people in the hospital with laboratory-confirmed cases was lower than it has been since the beginning of the lockdown during the week of March 21, even though we are testing many more people today."

Harris County, Texas includes Houston. July 15 4000 hospital beds used for covid, Aug 10th it is now 2100
You need no lockdown where the virus ain't!

lol
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Old 08-22-2020, 10:06 AM
 
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Reading the comments tells the truth of why and what drove American to engage in Centuries of the Savagery of Slavery...
The truly sad thing is the mentality of those types who backed and supported the savagery of slavery... still spew their inhumanity in their attacks against the civic responsibility of having respect for others and society, to "shelter in place" , wear and mask and forgo the vanity and heathen desperation to mass gather to party.

These types secure the downfall of America... But the better thing or only thing that comes out of the exposure of such savagery is the downfall of white nationalist agenda.

The entire world is facing the choice of those who embrace the wisdoms gained over the ages, vs the fool of savagery lusting to promote their heathen instincts.

The meek who abide by the graceful gift to mankind of science will survive and prosper in the coming days and years, vs the greed driven money worshiping belligerent of willful ignorance which emboldens the drive of heathen instincts and vanities lusting's to disregard science, while they change the lusting that has filled the voids of their souls, will perish by the doings of their own desperations.

Facing The Truth has always been the strong hold of the meek... while the belligerent and prideful, relish heathen driven self glory.

Nation upon Nation laugh at the idiocy while they delight at the exposure of the savagery that tells them to be wary of the vile types that bring such calamity to a nation that was once praised around the world. Even those of other nation, know that what will remain when the cycle is done.. will be the humanity respecting people within the land of America, who respect the system of its governance, the principles of its Democracy and the dignity and civility of mankind.

We've seen many brought to the face of truth, when the ravages of the virus bring them to the brink of death, and the proclaim, "now" they understand... where as before they called the virus a hoax, they ignored it and denied the impact of what it is, unitl the money it brought the pains of desperation for breath... to awaken them... and now... they have come to respect it, and respect the lives of others... and abide by the gifts that Science and the professionals who risk their lives and dedicate themselves to helping others. They learn to respect them!!! and be thankful.
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Old 08-22-2020, 10:07 AM
 
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I wonder how long people will let the hypochondriacs run every aspect of American life.
Hey, as a first rate hypochondriac I resent that. We are not even that crazy.

Anyone is who is scare of this is either highly ignorant or doing it for political reasons.
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Old 08-22-2020, 10:12 AM
 
Location: NY
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Great, its about freaking time!!


They should have completely shut the US down when this first started, even areas where they had more strict quarantines, they were still allowing trucks to make deliveries (from out of state even)! That is just asking for trouble.
The trucks were bringing, food, medical supplies, heating oil....

Besides...by late February/early March the virus was already all over the place, we now know in hindsight. It was probably here in December.
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Old 08-22-2020, 10:13 AM
 
Location: Kansas
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I cannot believe that people have not heard of the many issues caused by the shutdown. For those that missed it, it was more than economic: https://qz.com/1850947/the-deadly-co...omic-shutdown/

Biden doesn't even know where he is. He reads what is written down for him. Remember how they said that Hillary was on a medication, the one that made her eyes really wide open? I think Biden is using the same thing, maybe some sort of "speed" for his appearances in order not to fall asleep. Seriously, he appears to be using something, just watch him.

Remember how contagious this was supposed to be? Now, they are wondering why it wasn't, and science may have an answer: https://unherd.com/2020/06/karl-fris...e-to-covid-19/

From the article:

"Today, though, the presence of some level of prior resistance and immunity to Covid-19 is fast becoming accepted scientific fact. Results have just been published of a study suggesting that 40%-60% of people who have not been exposed to coronavirus have resistance at the T-cell level from other similar coronaviruses like the common cold."

CDC refused to say how accurate testing was for COVID 19. Deaths were allowed to be fudged as in if someone died, even if never tested, and they might have had COVID 19, they could count that death as a COVID 19 death.

In this interview, yes with someone conservative, but out of the mouth of Birx (Fraud Fauci's sidekick) Birx explains how deaths can be counted:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4l_jUZ515Zg

Take the Panic Out of Pandemic:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fof6jIzoNxQ
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