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Old 08-24-2020, 06:05 PM
 
Location: 23.7 million to 162 million miles North of Venus
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Context, context, context.

Not the same. McCain's case wasn't legislated, pursued and pushed to the extent it was for Obama.
Here's some "context" for you .. neither McCain or Cruz won their race for the presidency. WHY would he continue with the birtherism angle if they were OUT? No doubt if Obama had lost he would have stopped bringing it up about Obama too. Why continue if they are out of the race?
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Old 08-24-2020, 06:08 PM
 
Location: 23.7 million to 162 million miles North of Venus
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Well, pretty much expected you to keep put your hands over your ears, close your eyes and mouth a lot of nonsense. And you didn't disappoint. Thanks for the entertainment.
Your response is expected. You lost the debate and you know it.
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Old 08-24-2020, 06:10 PM
 
Location: 23.7 million to 162 million miles North of Venus
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I always stop reading after someone starts out with the sophomoric, passive-aggressive "Um" mostly used by 15 year old girls. If you have something to say and want me to actually read and respond, try again.
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Old 08-24-2020, 07:35 PM
 
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Obama was a citizen. His Mother was a citizen, that makes him a citizen.

I agree with that Poster on dividing the Nation. Obama's class warfare tactics drove a huge wedge and he made it all about race. His supporters doubled down on it and made the race card a joke.
Nope.

If you look at what the law was when Obama was born (the specifics of the law have changed more than once over the last 75 years)....when one parent = a citizen and the other parent = not a citizen then the parent conferring the citizenship had to have resided in the U.S. for 5 years after turning 14.

If Obama had been born on or after his mother’s 19th birthday, then it wouldn’t have mattered where Obama was born, as long as she met that 5 years after turning 14 requirement.

When Obama was born, his mother was still only 18.

It’s a moot point because Obama was born in Hawaii, but it does matter where he was born.
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Old 08-24-2020, 07:48 PM
 
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In other words, the same sort of nonsense with the Democrats and their fake Russian conspiracy.
Except the birther nonsense was a few flakes (yes DJT was one of those). The Russia nonsense is the entire Democratic Party.

And don't even start on how bigoted the Democrats are against evangelicals, which are 1/4th of the population.
^^^^^

An irrelevant deflection. The subject is Racism and Birtherism. Russia has nothing to do with either, and not everyone who is telling you you are wrong is a Democrat (we who aren’t Democrats are under no obligation to defend the actions of Democrats re the Russia conspiracy. Everything isn’t ‘Us vs. Them).
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Old 08-24-2020, 08:38 PM
 
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And John McCain's eligibility based on his place of birth was also questioned.

Boom, where'd your talking point go?
No, not boom.

It was a location question, but it was not the same type of point about the location.

McCain stated where he was born. No one doubted him, questioned him, nor argued where he was born.

He obviously didn’t try to put forth any documentation that he was born in a U.S. state because he wasn’t, and he knew he wasn’t.

The issue was whether, or not that location of his birth, in the Panama Canal area, given that time and all of the particular circumstances, sufficed to be/counted as, for that point, U.S. soil.

Obama said he was born in Hawaii, which was already a state when he was born.

People doubted Obama, questioned him, and argued that he wasn’t born in Hawaii.

Obama provided some documentation, but some people insisted the documentation wasn’t good enough.

Plug in McCain to Obama’s birth location and birth date (make those two things re Obama be information about McCain for the sake of argument). meaning make McCain actually born in 1961 in Hawaii for the sake of argument. No one would have questioned the presentation of that, and Obama deserved that approach....and he didn’t get it. He didn’t get it because some people couldn’t stand the idea of a black man, who some considered to have a non traditional religious history, sitting behind the Resolute Desk in the Oval Office.
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Old 08-24-2020, 09:05 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley, CA
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Here's some "context" for you .. neither McCain or Cruz won their race for the presidency. WHY would he continue with the birtherism angle if they were OUT? No doubt if Obama had lost he would have stopped bringing it up about Obama too. Why continue if they are out of the race?
You've just missed the big question --- why even bring that up in the first place, if it's false to begin with?

So you're justifying birther arguments. Gotcha. That's all I gotta know.
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Old 08-24-2020, 09:07 PM
 
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Your response is expected. You lost the debate and you know it.
Well, thank you very much with the Pee Wee Herman retort. I guess you've nicely demonstrated the extent of your erudition and intellectual depth.
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Old 08-24-2020, 09:30 PM
 
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You've just missed the big question --- why even bring that up in the first place, if it's false to begin with?

So you're justifying birther arguments. Gotcha. That's all I gotta know.
I sure don't know, I'm not a psychic. But, since you claim to know how I think then you must feel you are psychic, right? You should try to find your answer by delving into the minds of those that brought that stuff up in the first place.
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Old 08-24-2020, 09:34 PM
 
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