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Old 08-25-2020, 04:55 AM
 
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Woulda, coulda, shoulda... but didn’t.

You just can’t stop saying Hillary.
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Old 08-25-2020, 05:09 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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Since Dems are science-driven, they should be able to provide scientific study's proving that Hillary Clinton would have saved more lives than the 3,170,000 (as of 8-24-20) lives Trump has saved, or that she would have had less Covid-19 fatalities than Trump's 170,000.

If they cannot produce any specific scientific studies, then their claims are 100% anecdotal!

In fact, the Dems have no idea what Hillary would have done differently. It's 100% speculation.

For all they know, Trump saved MORE lives than Hillary would have, or Hillary would have caused more Covid-19 fatalities.

There are no Covid-19 related scientific studies mentioning Trump and Clinton by name whatsoever.

There are no double-blind, or peer-reviewed studies on that specific topic at all.


Remember when Dems posted endlessly that Hydroxychloroquine's effectiveness was all anecdotal?

So too then, is their claim that Trump's Covid-19 results were any worse than Hillary's Clinton's would have been.

They have NO scientific studies that address that specific claim, so their claims are totally anecdotal, heresay, speculation, & scientifically unproven.

If Libs are going to apply scientific studies to attempt to prove global warming, & the ineffectiveness of HCQ, then they must also apply specific scientific studies to the Trump accusations, or they must be refuted outright as being anecdotal.
I don't understand why Trump supporters continue to talk about Hydroxychloroquine when on June 15th Trump's own FDA, and all countries have withdrew approval for using it. It doesn't work and been proven not to work even Doctor Oz who talked about it endlessly online stopped talking about it. He claimed he even paid for his own study later when all the studies came back showed no improvement he just stopped talking about it he didn't even read the results of the study. Later I saw him on another show where he gave a very sheepish response to his prior enthusiasm to the drug. Someone made some big bucks on that fraud. https://www.fda.gov/news-events/pres...hloroquine-and
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Old 08-25-2020, 05:45 AM
 
Location: AZ
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The Democrats and media claimed Donald Trump's C-19 response wasnt as good as what they could have achieved. Dems are the ones using an alternate reality for the purposes of political attack....Dems initiated the "make believe" analogy, notme.

I am simply maginfying the absurdity of such a hypothetical analysis...your post proves I have made my point. Thanks for playing

Any competent leader, Republican or Democrat, could and would be doing better than the current president; one doesn’t need to create an “absurd.....hypothetical analysis” as you have done, but simply compare the US’s response to the rest of the first world. Which is to say our country’s response has been a near-total-failure in comparison.

Thanks for playing what?
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Old 08-25-2020, 07:17 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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Newflash: Let me spell it out for you. There isn't any scientific evidence.

Finally, somebody who states the obvious about the false claims about Trump's handling of C-19. Thx!
That's because your original premise is not how science works.

I mean why stop at Hillary. How many deaths would we have had if say.... Herman Cain was president.
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Old 08-25-2020, 10:14 AM
 
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This whole post is classic pigeon vs. human chess style, to be fair we chose to sit down and play with the pigeon, he made it abundantly clear he was a pigeon.
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Old 08-25-2020, 10:23 AM
 
Location: Chicago area
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What if. What if. What if. If Clinton was president would we still have a pandemic office with the real "all the best people." My guess is yes.

Riddle of the day, why did Azar visit Taiwan? To get to the other side? Well to get to the other side of this pandemic and see what a scientific stellar pandemic response office looks like vs the botched Covid response we have here with no pandemic response office?
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Old 08-25-2020, 10:29 AM
 
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Originally Posted by beach43ofus View Post
Since Dems are science-driven, they should be able to provide scientific study's proving that Hillary Clinton would have saved more lives than the 3,170,000 (as of 8-24-20) lives Trump has saved, or that she would have had less Covid-19 fatalities than Trump's 170,000.

If they cannot produce any specific scientific studies, then their claims are 100% anecdotal!

In fact, the Dems have no idea what Hillary would have done differently. It's 100% speculation.

For all they know, Trump saved MORE lives than Hillary would have, or Hillary would have caused more Covid-19 fatalities.

There are no Covid-19 related scientific studies mentioning Trump and Clinton by name whatsoever.

There are no double-blind, or peer-reviewed studies on that specific topic at all.


Remember when Dems posted endlessly that Hydroxychloroquine's effectiveness was all anecdotal?

So too then, is their claim that Trump's Covid-19 results were any worse than Hillary's Clinton's would have been.

They have NO scientific studies that address that specific claim, so their claims are totally anecdotal, heresay, speculation, & scientifically unproven.

If Libs are going to apply scientific studies to attempt to prove global warming, & the ineffectiveness of HCQ, then they must also apply specific scientific studies to the Trump accusations, or they must be refuted outright as being anecdotal.
You should realize that all the "If" scenarios are speculation that cannot be proven. Like when Trump speculates what will happen IF Biden is elected. Speculation that cannot be proven.
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Old 08-25-2020, 10:44 AM
 
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If nasty cellulite ridden Hillary had won: It would be: COVID who???? : :O
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Old 08-25-2020, 10:48 AM
 
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If Hillary would have won, coronavirus would have been the least of any hard-working American-born citizen's worries.
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Old 08-25-2020, 11:00 AM
 
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Look at democrat run states if you want to know what the covid death rates would look like country wide.
Sadly, Democrat-run states can't control the Republican citizen mouth breathers who refused to wear masks and spread this around.
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