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What did we learn from the rioting which took place in 1960s?
Did involvement of federal troops and national guard stop it? No
Did heavy handed approach stop it? No
The riots went on for years, even after one president (Johnson) held himself accountable, and admitted failure. He fell on his sword like a man and refused to run for re-election. However, the rioting continued with the next president, until he agreed to make policy change.
We know for fact that Trump will never hold himself accountable, and we already know he is running for re-election.
So, would a policy change stop this? Probably. Its time to get the best and the brightest to come up with something. Blame shifting is never going to end it, but unfortunately that is all we'll ever get from Trump.
What did we learn from the rioting which took place in 1960s?
Did involvement of federal troops and national guard stop it? No
Did heavy handed approach stop it? No
The riots went on for years, even after one president (Johnson) held himself accountable, and admitted failure. He fell on his sword like a man and refused to run for re-election. However, the rioting continued with the next president, until he agreed to make policy change.
We know for fact that Trump will never hold himself accountable, and we already know he is running for re-election.
The "wisdom" of a liberal-
Let the anarchists burn, loot, rape and murder. Maybe they will get tired of it! This is why the dems will lose the November elections, as NO ONE, regardless of previous political affiliation, wants anarchy delivered to their neighborhoods. The dems have gone too far and made a very big miscalculation.
And yes- the national guard did prevent MANY structures from being burned during the Vietnam War. I lived in a large university town then and saw the direct results of the national guard preventing structures from being destroyed.
After a few of the anarchists get killed, they will scale back their rioting. MOST of these rioters are spoiled white suburban rich kids who will run with the sound of gunfire. Wisconsin has already shown us that.
Let the anarchists burn, loot, rape and murder. Maybe they will get tired of it! This is why the dems will lose the November elections, as NO ONE, regardless of previous political affiliation, wants anarchy delivered to their neighborhoods. The dems have gone too far and made a very big miscalculation.
And yes- the national guard did prevent MANY structures from being burned during the Vietnam War. I lived in a large university town then and saw the direct results of the national guard preventing structures from being destroyed.
After a few of the anarchists get killed, they will scale back their rioting. MOST of these rioters are spoiled white suburban rich kids who will run with the sound of gunfire. Wisconsin has already shown us that.
^^^^^This. All of it! Remember with whom you are dealing.
What did we learn from the rioting which took place in 1960s?
Did involvement of federal troops and national guard stop it? No
Did heavy handed approach stop it? No
The riots went on for years, even after one president (Johnson) held himself accountable, and admitted failure. He fell on his sword like a man and refused to run for re-election. However, the rioting continued with the next president, until he agreed to make policy change.
We know for fact that Trump will never hold himself accountable, and we already know he is running for re-election.
So, would a policy change stop this? Probably. Its time to get the best and the brightest to come up with something. Blame shifting is never going to end it, but unfortunately that is all we'll ever get from Trump.
What policy changes do you believe would stop this?
What policy changes do you believe would stop this?
I said it's time to its time to get the best and the brightest to come up with something that will quell it. It starts with listing the options and narrowing it down to the best options and even talking to the people who organize the riots (if they are indeed organized). Are they organized? I don't see how they could have organized a riot in one say on Kenosha. Whether or not they are organized, there are people who they listen to, so they could reach out to those people and talk.
A leader will work together with local leaders and resolve issues. Currently we have a 'leader' who treats people like enemies, and that will guarantee there will never be any agreements. I know you from the Christianity board, so you might have heard what Pat Robertson said about Trump's approach. He said "you just can't do that". Robertson is a die hard conservative.
So, would a policy change stop this? Probably. Its time to get the best and the brightest to come up with something. Blame shifting is never going to end it, but unfortunately that is all we'll ever get from Trump.
The protesters are rioting over "systemic racism," which if it exists at all is a very pale shadow of its former self. So, in theory, if systemic racism could be ended (and it was already very well on its way to being ended), then the riots would stop, right? So how do we get serious and put the final nail in the coffin of systemic racism? What concrete steps must we take in order to accomplish this task and thus satisfy the demands of the protesters?
What did we learn from the rioting which took place in 1960s?
Did involvement of federal troops and national guard stop it? No
Did heavy handed approach stop it? No
The riots went on for years, even after one president (Johnson) held himself accountable, and admitted failure. He fell on his sword like a man and refused to run for re-election. However, the rioting continued with the next president, until he agreed to make policy change.
We know for fact that Trump will never hold himself accountable, and we already know he is running for re-election.
So, would a policy change stop this? Probably. Its time to get the best and the brightest to come up with something. Blame shifting is never going to end it, but unfortunately that is all we'll ever get from Trump.
Policy change like what Tim Scott drew up, and the Dems in the Senate refused to even debate?
or only policy change like the Dems jammed through the House without debate or amendment on party lines?
I have since acquired a perception LBJ did not run for a second term because he and the divided Democrat party understood he could not win.
The four Civil Rights Acts he supported did not go over well, especially with the powerful Southern Democrat voting block within the party. School desegregation/ busing and Fair Housing did not go over well throughout the country. And then there was the never ending anti - war protests and inner city riots.
The protesters are rioting over "systemic racism," which if it exists at all is a very pale shadow of its former self. So, in theory, if systemic racism could be ended (and it was already very well on its way to being ended), then the riots would stop, right? So how do we get serious and put the final nail in the coffin of systemic racism? What concrete steps must we take in order to accomplish this task and thus satisfy the demands of the protesters?
By reaching out to people who the rioters are likely to listen and through them help them understand that what they are doing is wrong. People can be reasoned with, but as long as they are treated like enemies, they are not going to work with you. Besides, most of there people riot for the sake of rioting, not because of 'systematic racism'.
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I was a goofy little kid at the time.
I have since acquired a perception LBJ did not run for a second term because he and the divided Democrat party understood he could not win.
Yes, his own party held him accountable for the State of the Union, and ran candidates against him. He accepted responsibility and fell on his sword.
Can you imagine Trump admitting he is to blame for ...........anything at all, let alone fall on his sword because it would be the best for the nation? Never!
I wish the GOP had ran a challenger against Trump, but it seems they will never hold themselves accountable for anything, as you can see from the massive blame-shifting campaign which is under way.
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