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Listen, I'm sorry, but this wasn't self defense. This kid lived in another state 15 or 20 miles from Kenosha and traveled there with the weapon. It was a very bad situation waiting to happen. He wasn't defending his own home or a loved one. He had no justification to open fire with a deadly weapon. He shouldn't have even been there.
But the "protesters" are just as bad. They are for the most part anarchists bent on looting and destruction. They are equally culpable in this. It's disgusting what is happening right now in U.S. cities.
The real tragedy in all these cities where this has happened is that the powers that be do next to nothing to stop what is going on. The police are afraid to act. In many cases they are outnumbered.
When one of these protests turns violent, what needs to happen is that the national guard or the federal military should be stationed every few hundred feet on every street and in every area where the violence is occurring. It should be stopped before armed civilians have to take the law into their own hands.
I don’t like these violent protesters either but adding in counter protestors with guns makes a bad situation worse. We have seen these riots in the past controlling them is easier said than done.
It's an open and shut case. The deceased, both of them, are on video chasing and attempting to attack the MINOR, who then responded with deadly force to prevent imminent bodily harm or death.
They can go after him for possession of a firearm underage, but no jury in the world is going to convict a kid who defended himself against terrorists.
It’s not open and shut.
It doesn’t matter if you want to emphasize the minor part. Something like this they’ll look to try as an adult.
Videos have yet to show what caused this. The state doesn’t have a stand your ground law. It is a castle doctrine, which won’t apply to him.
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Originally Posted by Annandale_Man
The kid shot a meth head who attacked him and immediately tried to call the EMS or police to help the guy. While waiting on the phone, rioters started to get agitated and started chasing him. He tripped and fell and one of the rioters kicked him in the head (attempted murder). The kid fired his weapon in self defense to save his own life against ANOTHER rioter who was armed with a handgun while still on the ground. The kid should be released to his parents with no charges filed.
This is George Zimmerman 2.0
I’m still not convinced. We need to know what started it.
They've got 2 gofundme accts going for Kyle and it's gone up over $1000 in 10 minutes. Meanwhile there is one for Gage - you know the guy with the pistol who's got the arrest record and it's also receiving donations but not as quickly as Kyle. Kyle has lots of support and many in Wisconsin are saying that if they get picked for jury duty - they'll make sure he gets off.
Your average American is sick of all this BS - whether you libs want to believe that or not.
Then those people aren’t fit for jury duty and will be weeded out.
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Originally Posted by bobbythegreat
He was the one that got attacked by your terrorist comrades, thus he's the one that shot your terrorist comrades.
Shooting someone in self defense is not a crime and that's clearly what happened.....though I understand why terrorist sympathizers would be in mourning.
Where is your proof? The videos don’t show the start.
Ultimately, where were the parents? Their moron son has ruined his life and theirs.
Strange that there were other counter protesters but only this one kid needed a gun to defend himself. Shooting someone while illegally carrying a rifle screams felony.
Well when he got attacked by a mob, that rifle certainly became in handy.
There’s a saying: “I rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6.”
What you are arguing is that a rape victim shouldn't have driven 15 miles to "that kind of neighborhood" if she didn't want to get raped.
It's not an argument that will fly in court.
The kid was attacked by terrorists and he defended himself.
How old are you? You're going to confuse the older conservatives with that analogy. I disagree he was some innocent bystander BTW. He committed some crimes to go supposedly stop people from committing crimes. There was a curfew in place as well which all of them were breaking.
It's an open and shut case. The deceased, both of them, are on video chasing and attempting to attack the MINOR, who then responded with deadly force to prevent imminent bodily harm or death.
They can go after him for possession of a firearm underage, but no jury in the world is going to convict a kid who defended himself against terrorists.
No indication of what happened prior, out of state underage and carrying a gun to a protest where he had no business.
With Cops retiring at accelerating rate due to the stupidity of how the media and politicians treat them in press I think it really is time for ROBOCOPS. Program them to respond to the illegal and criminal behavior and let them loose.
Send the protestors down to the Disney 'bubble' with the emotionally distraught NBA players so they can all and bond over their common injustices. Film it. I'd love to watch the wealthy NBA players react to the mobs demanding/ destroying their stuff.
i think the defense is going to have a tough time arguing against the fact that he drove 20 miles looking for trouble. I doubt the prosecution will be able to convince that its premediated, but the defense will have a hard time explaining that, especially since in Illinois you are not allowed to possess a gun until you're 18. The person who gave it to him (unless he stole it) could be charged as an accessory. It is true that minors are allowed to possess guns in Wisconsin, but only for hunting, and they must be supervised, so he's against the law as well. Seems like common sense is missing from both sides (why would you go to an area where your presence (with the gun) will not be welcomed, and why would you go after a guy who has a gun and just shot it?)...
The victim of the mob had every bit as much legal right to be there as the savages rioting, looting and burning. The prosecutor would have to prove that he was "looking for trouble" and not just being cautious enough to bring a means of defending himself. The fact that he shot criminals in the midst of a violent criminal act alone provides him with a capable defense. Otherwise-why were the rioters there, looking for trouble? Seems pretty obvious that they were looking for and expecting defenseless victims to terrorize and attack.
Well when he got attacked by a mob, that rifle certainly became in handy.
There’s a saying: “I rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6.”
I'd rather be carried by 6 than laid by 200
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