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Old 08-28-2020, 01:33 PM
 
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What is Biden going to do to stop it? We haven't heard a thing about it.
Weren't you talking about how a President's powers are Constitutionally limited????

President Trump is predicting that electing Biden will throw America into utter chaos and violence. But he doesn't say how. Because it's all bs. Just like his healthcare plan, better and cheaper, was bs. Don't you all get tired of swallowing the bs?
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Old 08-28-2020, 01:35 PM
 
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I have never said that so stop being disingenuous.
It's implied in your posts. When you excuse President Trump because his powers are limited, but then ask how Biden will solve the problem. Why is one President excused from solving the problem, but another is not excused?
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Old 08-28-2020, 01:38 PM
 
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Maybe it would help if these Dem politicians would stop making excuses for the violence and destruction, stop conflating the riots with peaceful protests, start letting the police actually do their jobs and arrest the ones commiting the riots and then actually convict them too.


If they want Trump's help doing that, all they have to do is ask.
Protests are protected in this country. I know, hard to believe that freedom of speech is a sacred principle to our system of government.

When the protests turn violent, the criminals should be arrested and prosecuted.

Protest, though, must be protected. Free speech must be protected.
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Old 08-28-2020, 01:42 PM
 
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100% democrats rioting and killing people. 100%


Republicans aren't doing it. period. Democrats are killing Cops and kids. Day in day out. Democrats are burning cities, rampaging thru peoples businesses and ruining lives.




suggesting this is "Trumps America" is a lie. It is an attempt to use violence to intimidate honest Americans. It is sedition. It needs to be met with an overwhelming response.
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Old 08-28-2020, 01:52 PM
 
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Have no idea what Biden would do, perhaps what any sane person would do.

Appoint a commission, support hearings, hold citizen group town halls. Figure out what is going on. How is it that people are being shot dead in their beds? Why so many "bad apples" on the police force?

Perhaps universal body cam use would help uncover some common threads.

Once you figure out what the problem is, you develop some solutions, and try them out. See what works.

But pretending that the problem doesn't exist or that more police brutality is going to solve the problem of police brutality is sort of silly.
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Old 08-28-2020, 04:16 PM
 
Location: Raleigh NC
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President Trump has limited Constitutional powers to interfere in state/local law enforcement.

The real problem for leftists is that they created a deadly situation with BLM/Antifa but it's only affecting Democrat-led cities. At this point, there is no reason for Trump to assert Constitutional powers to crush the Marxist insurrection that is only occurring in a handful of blue cities. If Democrat mayors and governors refuse Trump's assistance, they accept the sole responsibility of the outcome.

And the reality is that the riots are unlikely to bleed over into red cities/states because it won't be tolerated by law enforcement or the people.
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Well stated. I just love people that can rationally think.
From a political standpoint, it is in Trump's favor to sit back and let the problem cities - and they are all Dem in largely Dem states - burn themselves to the ground and do absolutely nothing. Frankly, the Portland Federal Courthouse might cost $500MM (basing this on our large new justice center in my town). That's 1/10 of 1% of the annual Federal budget. That's how much money the Federal government spends each hour.

But he hasn't. He's offered help. He's passed an executive order. He clearly supported Tim Scott's bill. Cities like Detroit - and eventually Chicago - that realized they needed help have been better. Local Dem leaders that have jumped to the defense of the protestors*/criminals - be they "Summer of Love" SEA or "No curfew necessary" PDX or "Let me come dance with you and you'll live me" MPLS have not.

At the end of the day, "police" is a local issue. If it were the military, it would be a Federal issue.

I mean, one really has to wonder - the citizens of Portland and Seattle and MPLS must be OK with their city and state leadership, right? Or else THEY would be protesting about their elected leaders.

* the protestors are free speech and God bless them. But in SEA she let them overtake City blocks, in PDX he allowed violent protests and and in MPLS, well that one's obvious, yes?
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Old 08-28-2020, 04:18 PM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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Protests are protected in this country. I know, hard to believe that freedom of speech is a sacred principle to our system of government.

When the protests turn violent, the criminals should be arrested and prosecuted.

Protest, though, must be protected. Free speech must be protected.



Agreed, however that's generally not happening in these Democrat cities.

Even when they do get arrested, they end up being released without charge to go back and riot again.
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Old 08-28-2020, 04:21 PM
 
Location: Raleigh NC
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And you think police reform, prison reform and inner-city investment will not happen if Biden is elected?
well, Biden had 39 years plus 8 as VP (or correct me on the numbers) to do some of these things.

Especially his 8 years as VP for a Black POTUS ... what did they do about these 3 things?

and did you tell us yet which cities got uninvited Feds? That's MUCH easier to provide.
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Old 08-28-2020, 04:22 PM
 
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Weren't you talking about how a President's powers are Constitutionally limited????

President Trump is predicting that electing Biden will throw America into utter chaos and violence. But he doesn't say how. Because it's all bs. Just like his healthcare plan, better and cheaper, was bs. Don't you all get tired of swallowing the bs?
All politicians are full of BS, including Biden. Why won't he say what he'll do to help out? Why won't he condemn the riots? Are you fine with what's going on?
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Old 08-28-2020, 04:23 PM
 
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well, Biden had 39 years plus 8 as VP (or correct me on the numbers) to do some of these things.

Especially his 8 years as VP for a Black POTUS ... what did they do about these 3 things?

and did you tell us yet which cities got uninvited Feds? That's MUCH easier to provide.
He voted for the crime bill that put them there.
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