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That was understood OVER A YEAR AGO by those who were interested in the facts of the case, and not just weaponizing the event for political gain.
He never should have been charged with the weapon violation, but then again, he shouldn't have been charged with anything.
As I wrote earlier, the ignorance being demonstrated here is ASTOUNDING.
The state law says “any person under 18 years of age who possesses or goes armed with a dangerous weapon is guilty of a Class A misdemeanor.” It defines a dangerous weapon as any “firearm, loaded or unloaded,” as well as metallic knuckles, nunchaku, pointed stars and other items.
Rittenhouse’s defense team, however, successfully argued that there was a loophole in the law that says the misdemeanor only applies to 17-year-olds carrying short-barrel rifles. Carrying a short-barrel rifle at any age in Wisconsin is a felony, with exceptions for active military and police officers.
Dismissed on an interpretive technicality. Yesterday. Not a year ago.
For those interested in the facts here they are regarding the judge dismissing the misdemeanor gun charge on a technicality:
Judge Schroeder ruled Wisconsin’s open carry law is so confusingly written it can be interpreted to mean 17-year-olds can openly carry firearms as long as they’re not short-barrel rifles. He believed the jury could only convict if prosecutors proved the barrel of Rittenhouse’s rifle was less than 16 inches and has an overall length shorter than 26 inches. The AR-15 has a barrel length of 16 inches apparently.
The judge’s decision stunned Wisconsin legal experts and the prosecution who argued his interpretation of the law does not make sense. Under the judge’s interpretation, it would be illegal for a 17-year-old to carry brass knuckles in Wisconsin but permissible to carry a semi-automatic rifle.
Under the law he was properly charged. Under the Judge's interpretation and the defense's alleged loophole the charge was dismissed.
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Legal experts agreed the statute is poorly worded, but said the legislature’s intention was to give teenagers the legal right to hunt as long as they weren’t using short-barrel rifles or sawed-off shotguns. The judge could have recognized that fact and allowed the jury to consider the charge, said John Gross, director of the Public Defender Project at the University of Wisconsin Law School. “I think the legislature just did a bad job and you have really, clumsy awkward wording,” Gross said. “But it would seem clear that this was about hunting and not about giving 17-year-olds the right to open carry."
In a memorandum issued in 2018, the Wisconsin Legislative Council — a government-supported, nonpartisan legislative service agency — shared the prosecution’s understanding of the open carry law and made no mention of rifle size in its summary of the state’s firearm regulations. “Under Wisconsin law, with certain exceptions for hunting, military service, and target practice, a person under age 18 is generally prohibited from possessing or going armed with a firearm,” the memorandum states.
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He provoked the chase by shooting his weapon in the first place. Also not allowing the other to leave would be a question had Rosenbaum lethally prevented him from leaving, but in fact Kyle prevented Rosenbaum from leaving.
When did he shoot his weapon that provoked Rosenbaum into chasing him? When Rosenbaum had finally cornered Kyle, when was Rosenbaum trying to leave, which you're saying Kyle had prevented him from doing so?
I don't buy the self defense case on all the shootings. I buy it on some of them.
So there's that.
I don't think he's "guilty of everything, or guilty of nothing". He appeared to have shot one of his victims, IMHO, not in self-defense.
Maybe you already explained why you don't think the Rosenbaum shooting was self defenses, but can you do it one more time ? Is it the 4 shots, provocation, not retreating enough, Rosenbaum wasn't enough of a threat, all those, others ?
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No one on the prosecutor's side will answer that because they never watched the trial and are just basing their opinions on twitter and headlines.
GG asked him what happened and he literally said he shot someone( the off his meds Rosenbald) and is going to the police. Does GG escort him? nah,...he joins the mob in chasing him down and then jumpkick man and skaterboi decide to assault him.
Exactly!
GG knew where he was going, he could have escorted him, or had his pals do it while he went to check on Rosenbaum, which he never did do...some paramedic, eh?
GG first sicced the mob on him and then joined in on the chase, and attacks.
The unarmed guy who he first pointed his rifle at, then shot, then ran away. What do you suppose he was going to “turn himself in” for doing? One would turn themselves in for committing a crime, most likely.
If I was chased down by a crazed dude and forced to shoot him to get him off me, I'd want to 'turn myself in" just to be safe. Because, as the that year demonstrated, the angry mob will beat you down if not worse. Did you not hear the people in the background shouting get him get him?
The unarmed guy who he first pointed his rifle at, then shot, then ran away. What do you suppose he was going to “turn himself in” for doing? One would turn themselves in for committing a crime, most likely.
What planet are you from? How many criminals do their crime and go right to the cops??
KR saw that he did no crime, so we was going to the police for assistance. He was doing the right thing.
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Not so much when got separated from the others and his friend Black,
He got separated because the cops had blocked his way back from the gas station to his friends.
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and what the heck is Black doing on top of a building with a rifle is he going to start picking off people.
When did Black "pick off people"? He didn't, so stop making things up.
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He should have stuck close to KR, he was responsible for that rifle. KR should have left the area with the others, makes no sense that he remained behind.
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The unarmed guy who he first pointed his rifle at, then shot, then ran away. What do you suppose he was going to “turn himself in” for doing? One would turn themselves in for committing a crime, most likely.
"turn himself in"? No, he was going to the cops to inform them of what had happened and to explain his part in those events. Which is what a person should do. Why are you thinking that people shouldn't do that?
The unarmed guy who he first pointed his rifle at, then shot, then ran away. What do you suppose he was going to “turn himself in” for doing? One would turn themselves in for committing a crime, most likely.
Why is he not being charged for that? Maybe he shot nobody at that point in time.....
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