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View Poll Results: Vote For The Outcome Of The Murder Trial Of Kyle Rittenhouse
Guilty - Kyle Rittenhouse murdered those young protesters 72 19.78%
Not Guilty - Kyle Rittenhouse acted in self-defense 292 80.22%
Voters: 364. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 11-16-2021, 09:35 AM
 
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He did escalate it. By strutting around with an AR15. That's an escalation.
So, in your opinion, the right to keep and bear arms is "an escalation"?

Are there any other civil rights you think are justification for attacking someone?

 
Old 11-16-2021, 09:35 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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He did escalate it. By strutting around with an AR15. That's an escalation.
Wrong as usual.

The way the others responded to his carrying the gun, and attacked him, was the escalation.

Or are you trying to pretend he didn't have the right to keep and bear arms?
 
Old 11-16-2021, 09:36 AM
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So, in your opinion, the right to keep and bear arms is "an escalation"?

Are there any other civil rights you think are justification for attacking someone?
Walking into a riot, in a town that's not where you live, with an obvious AR15 at the ready - is an escalation.

That's why our police force doesn't do that. The very appearance of a military occupying force - which is what this looks like - is an escalation.
 
Old 11-16-2021, 09:36 AM
 
Location: Cali
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He did escalate it. By strutting around with an AR15. That's an escalation.
Open carry is legal in the state of WI. Legal with an L

So how exactly did he “escalate” anything when open carry is legal?
 
Old 11-16-2021, 09:39 AM
 
Location: NYC
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Open carry is legal in the state of WI. Legal with an L

So how exactly did he “escalate” anything when open carry is legal?
Classic Victim blaming.
 
Old 11-16-2021, 09:40 AM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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I wonder how many of those jurors have or had teenage kids. The prosecution was shaming that kid for not hand fighting the "smaller" guy (a buff 36 year old psycho ex-con) who'd been threatening people all night. I wonder if they would want their kid fighting that guy or if they would rather their kid used whatever they could to defend themselves against that attack.

The shaming of Kyle and minimizing of Rosenbaums threat is a mistake and I think would turn off the jury.

Some people are calling this size shaming as well- as if a short person can't be a threat? Please, look at some professional fighters who don't have stature but are powerhouses. Never underestimate your opponent.
Rosenbaum seemed like he was on drugs that made him aggressive. We've all seen situations where two trained officers couldn't contain someone who was on drugs. It was laughable that the prosecutor suggested, just as some posters have suggested, that a soft 17-year old could have pushed him or hit him with his fist. You'd be a fool to poke a hornet's nest unless you knew for a fact that you could outrun the hornets.
 
Old 11-16-2021, 09:41 AM
 
Location: West Palm Beach, FL
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Seems like an awfully long time to decide an easy case.
 
Old 11-16-2021, 09:41 AM
 
Location: Central Florida
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Originally Posted by ClaraC View Post
Walking into a riot, in a town that's not where you live, with an obvious AR15 at the ready - is an escalation.

That's why our police force doesn't do that. The very appearance of a military occupying force - which is what this looks like - is an escalation.
So one 17 year old looks like an occupying force? Wow, you must think Kyle is one intimidating dude.
 
Old 11-16-2021, 09:42 AM
 
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Originally Posted by ClaraC View Post
Walking into a riot, in a town that's not where you live, with an obvious AR15 at the ready - is an escalation.

That's why our police force doesn't do that. The very appearance of a military occupying force - which is what this looks like - is an escalation.

Walking into a riot- Legal
In a town that's not where you live - Legal
with an obvious AR15 - Legal
 
Old 11-16-2021, 09:43 AM
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Wrong as usual.

The way the others responded to his carrying the gun, and attacked him, was the escalation.

Or are you trying to pretend he didn't have the right to keep and bear arms?
Carrying the gun was also an escalation. You may not know what that means, actually. It means when you're in a volatile environment, doing things that cause the volatility to ramp up. That's what carrying a gun like that, and strutting around, does. It doesn't create calm, it bumps up the passion.

He has the right (I guess, not completely clear) as a 17 year old to carry that AR15 into a riot, not smart, but he has that right.

Just as you have the right to blare your horn and shoot the finger at someone who makes a traffic mistake. An escalation, that's completely legal but often leads to trouble.

Instead of what deescalators do, which is to avoid a wreck, avoid further contact with the other driver, and get on with their day.
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