Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
View Poll Results: Vote For The Outcome Of The Murder Trial Of Kyle Rittenhouse
Guilty - Kyle Rittenhouse murdered those young protesters 72 19.78%
Not Guilty - Kyle Rittenhouse acted in self-defense 292 80.22%
Voters: 364. You may not vote on this poll

Closed Thread Start New Thread
 
Old 11-16-2021, 08:06 PM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
52,698 posts, read 34,548,464 times
Reputation: 29286

Advertisements

"The mob threatens violence, the rest of us tremble & pretty soon the mob controls our justice system. Pretty soon the enemies of civilization, which is what they are, are in charge of the country."
https://mobile.twitter.com/ColumbiaB...01415421566978

 
Old 11-16-2021, 08:06 PM
 
21,382 posts, read 7,943,676 times
Reputation: 18149
Quote:
Originally Posted by hawk55732 View Post
What is so complicated about it? He was at a place he could legally be, carrying a firearm he was legally able to carry. He was then attacked and defended himself. Seems pretty uncomplicated.
It's complicated because she wants him to be guilty. And it's difficult to prove that he was guilty. So it's complicated.
 
Old 11-16-2021, 08:06 PM
 
Location: Gods country
8,105 posts, read 6,751,676 times
Reputation: 10421
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ibginnie View Post
I try not to post. What I think is of concern to anyone but me. However, I can not keep reading about the doubt that a skate board can cause serious damage or even death. Yeah.....DEATH.

The average total weight of a skateboard is 11 lbs. It is constructed of layers of wood for the deck and then there are the trucks and wheels. The trucks are attached to the underside of the deck and are made from metal. The trucks are made from, titanium, magnesium or aluminum. The wheels are made from plastic urethane. Street boards use harder wheels. If Huber was a skateboarder, instead of just scooting around on one, he certainly had a board that could weigh as much as 11 - 12 lbs.

We don't know how much force Huber used to hit Rittenhouse. Was Huber a weight lifter? Did he pitch ball? Was he wimpy? We don't know. Now add in the adrenaline. Combine that unknown force with gravity, and the weight of the skateboard and you are looking at a potentially lethal weapon.

When my boys were seriously into skateboarding I took them to Vans in Potomac Mills. There was a boy who was hit in the head by his own skateboard. He missed the landing at the top of the half-pipe. With the weight of the skateboard and gravity alone he got a fractured skull and traumatic brain injury.

Just one example of what can happen when one gets hit in the head with a skateboard.

A little honest knowledge about this subject is sorely needed.
I remember a story about a doorman who attempted to stop a skateboarder from using the front of the building that he was responsible for as a skate park. The skateboarder struck him in the head with the board and he went into a coma and came out a paraplegic.
 
Old 11-16-2021, 08:06 PM
 
Location: 23.7 million to 162 million miles North of Venus
23,561 posts, read 12,525,568 times
Reputation: 10475
Quote:
Originally Posted by ClaraC View Post
This is NOT an open and shut case. The only survivor of encounters with Rittenhouse that night, believes that Rittenhouse was an "active shooter". With reasonable cause to think that.
You mean, the guy who'd lied a number of times about what had happened? Who also has a history of lying to the cops?

Quote:
This is incredibly complicated. Rittenhouse was witnessed to have shot another individual shortly before, and as his own attorney says, "hadn't shot anyone in two blocks since running". So damned by faint praise. He's not an active shooter, he's run a couple blocks since he shot anyone. Um.
Right after shooting Rosenbaum he'd told GG that he was going to the cops. Why did GG not want him to go to the cops?
Quote:
This is very, very difficult. Our men are encouraged to engage and disarm active shooters. This is what this man attempted.
Your men? Tell 'your men' to stop burning looting and murdering their way across the country.
Quote:
How should a court rule, when everyone is completely confused in the bedlam?

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/sur...al-2021-11-08/
Seems most people aren't confused and the only ones who are, are the ones who are desperately grasping at straws trying to figure out how to make it appear that it was something different than Rittenhouse defending his life.
 
Old 11-16-2021, 08:08 PM
 
8,181 posts, read 2,791,701 times
Reputation: 6016
Quote:
Originally Posted by newtovenice View Post
It's complicated because she wants him to be guilty. And it's difficult to prove that he was guilty. So it's complicated.
Not only is it difficult to prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt, the witnesses basically proved self-defense beyond a reasonable doubt.

The fact that there are 4200 posts and we're still bickering alone constitutes reasonable doubt.

Meaning there's only one acceptable verdict: Not Guilty. The prosecution failed to meet its burden of proof.
 
Old 11-16-2021, 08:10 PM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
11,143 posts, read 10,709,639 times
Reputation: 9799
Quote:
Originally Posted by ClaraC View Post
This is NOT an open and shut case. The only survivor of encounters with Rittenhouse that night, believes that Rittenhouse was an "active shooter". With reasonable cause to think that.

This is incredibly complicated. Rittenhouse was witnessed to have shot another individual shortly before, and as his own attorney says, "hadn't shot anyone in two blocks since running". So damned by faint praise. He's not an active shooter, he's run a couple blocks since he shot anyone. Um.

This is very, very difficult. Our men are encouraged to engage and disarm active shooters. This is what this man attempted.

How should a court rule, when everyone is completely confused in the bedlam?

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/sur...al-2021-11-08/
Every single pieces of video shows that Rittenhouse acted defensively during the entire confrontation. Not once was he the aggressor, not once did he fire for no reason, not once did he break the nonaggression principle. This is the most clear case of self defense that has ever been caught on video. The video footage could be used as training for self defense classes, and there would be far more praise than criticism from the instructor. You are correct that it is not an open and shut case, but that has less to do with the evidence than it does with the political climate.
 
Old 11-16-2021, 08:14 PM
 
Location: NYC
6,666 posts, read 2,969,843 times
Reputation: 4497
It wasn’t until you pointed your gun at him, advanced on him … that he( Kyle Rittenhouse) fired, right?”

Correct,” Grosskreutz replied.

It is telling that out of all the hundreds of people around him, that he only ended up shooting the only three people to assault him and/or lunge at him with a weapon.
 
Old 11-16-2021, 08:21 PM
 
Location: Gods country
8,105 posts, read 6,751,676 times
Reputation: 10421
Quote:
Originally Posted by naicha View Post
It wasn’t until you pointed your gun at him, advanced on him … that he( Kyle Rittenhouse) fired, right?”

Correct,” Grosskreutz replied.

It is telling that out of all the hundreds of people around him, that he only ended up shooting the only three people to assault him and/or lunge at him with a weapon.
It’s a shame that none of the jurors had a gun..
 
Old 11-16-2021, 08:22 PM
Status: "I don't understand. But I don't care, so it works out." (set 7 days ago)
 
35,626 posts, read 17,961,729 times
Reputation: 50650
Quote:
Originally Posted by berdee View Post
You mean, the guy who'd lied a number of times about what had happened? Who also has a history of lying to the cops?

Right after shooting Rosenbaum he'd told GG that he was going to the cops. Why did GG not want him to go to the cops?
Your men? Tell 'your men' to stop burning looting and murdering their way across the country.
Seems most people aren't confused and the only ones who are, are the ones who are desperately grasping at straws trying to figure out how to make it appear that it was something different than Rittenhouse defending his life.
Seems the jury is still out.

So, this is not cut and dried.

Other people disagree with your opinion, that this is easy peasy to figure out.

There are others, who see it differently than you, and the others on this forum do.
 
Old 11-16-2021, 08:23 PM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
18,461 posts, read 7,087,596 times
Reputation: 11700
Quote:
Originally Posted by Goodnight View Post
So someone swinging any hard object is grounds for the use of deadly force, what is the threshold. The word reckless is repeated in all these charges, he was attacked so his only choice was to kill?



The threshold is if said person, swinging said hard object is capable of inflicting great bodily harm or death.


A fully grown man swinging a skateboard at your head definitely qualifies.

Duh.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Closed Thread


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:47 PM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top