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View Poll Results: Vote For The Outcome Of The Murder Trial Of Kyle Rittenhouse
Guilty - Kyle Rittenhouse murdered those young protesters 72 19.78%
Not Guilty - Kyle Rittenhouse acted in self-defense 292 80.22%
Voters: 364. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 11-16-2021, 08:59 AM
 
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Originally Posted by ClaraC View Post
Yes. He created the chaos that got him shot.

And did nothing apparently to stop the chaos he foolishly thought he could stop.
The whole 4 days of riots was chaos. He did nothing to escalate it or reduce it. He did happen to kill two criminals, (one a child rapist) , and injure another, though.

 
Old 11-16-2021, 09:01 AM
 
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There was no reason for him to be walking around with a gun in the first place. Just shows he went there to cause trouble. His 17 year old self should have stayed at home with mommy and daddy.

He should spend the rest of his life in jail.
Gun or not, he shouldn't have been there. That isn't what the trial is about. Thanks for sharing your opinion though.
 
Old 11-16-2021, 09:02 AM
 
Location: Cali
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Yes. He created the chaos that got him shot.

And did nothing apparently to stop the chaos he foolishly thought he could stop.
How did he created chaos. Be specific
 
Old 11-16-2021, 09:02 AM
 
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I wonder how many of those jurors have or had teenage kids. The prosecution was shaming that kid for not hand fighting the "smaller" guy (a buff 36 year old psycho ex-con) who'd been threatening people all night. I wonder if they would want their kid fighting that guy or if they would rather their kid used whatever they could to defend themselves against that attack.

The shaming of Kyle and minimizing of Rosenbaums threat is a mistake and I think would turn off the jury.

Some people are calling this size shaming as well- as if a short person can't be a threat? Please, look at some professional fighters who don't have stature but are powerhouses. Never underestimate your opponent.
 
Old 11-16-2021, 09:03 AM
 
Location: NYC
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I've seen the video before, even mentioned it in here.



What I don't get is that since the video is far clearer than the "blurry picture" that the prosecutors had been using, then why are the prosecutors using that "blurry picture" instead of using this video, or a clear still from this video.....and, since the video is obviously clearer, did the prosecution blur that "blurry picture" intentionally...........
It's a hail mary basically.

Since the majority of the incident is well documented and pretty clear about who is chasing who and who is aggressing their only hope is to find an ambiguous portion and seed it with doubt. Ambiguous meaning a blurry image.

They feel if they can insert their own narrative into the blurry image to show that Rosenbaum only chased Rittenhouse because he First aimed his weapon at him they can over ride any defense claim afterwards.
 
Old 11-16-2021, 09:03 AM
 
Location: So Cal
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The parts I saw of the trial I was shocked at just how unprofessional and frankly dumb the prosecution sounded at times. I have zero law background but just common sense and the stuff he was saying was mind numbing at times. Some of the lines of questioning such as the fire stuff was weird. I actually laughed out loud at times.

Yeah, and how everyone's, you know, been in a bar fight. LOL

It just shows how thin the case is really.
 
Old 11-16-2021, 09:05 AM
 
Location: Cali
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The whole 4 days of riots was chaos. He did nothing to escalate it or reduce it. He did happen to kill two criminals, (one a child rapist) , and injure another, though.
ClaraC thinks a riot where Rosenbaum pushed a firing dumpster into occupied police cars was all Kyles fault
 
Old 11-16-2021, 09:06 AM
 
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Yes. He created the chaos that got him shot.

And did nothing apparently to stop the chaos he foolishly thought he could stop.
Every time you approach expressing a nearly reasonable, fair-minded opinion, you undercut it with a crazy comment like KR created the chaos that got him shot.
 
Old 11-16-2021, 09:07 AM
 
Location: 23.7 million to 162 million miles North of Venus
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Well, I guess you'd have to speak to those who think looters and rioters are heroes.
One could say that from many of your posts in the riot threads over the past year, you are one who thinks the protesting rioters are heroes.
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I personally don't know any who think that.

I do know people - and this thread is flooded with them - who believe Rittenhouse is a hero.

This opinion piece is specifically saying Rittenhouse is no hero. I'm quite sure you can find opinion pieces where people say looters and burners are no heroes - and in fact, they wouldn't get any pushback.

Looters and rioters, and Rittenhouse, are not heroes. There. Clear as a bell.
There may be a random scattering of those who think he's a hero, but that is all. Most do not think he's a hero. Claiming the thread is "flooded" with people who think he is a hero is just as silly as your "chaos" theory.
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Yes. He created the chaos that got him shot.

And did nothing apparently to stop the chaos he foolishly thought he could stop.
Rosenbaum, created the chaos? Yeah, you are exactly right about that.
 
Old 11-16-2021, 09:10 AM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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Originally Posted by Toyman at Jewel Lake View Post
I have to wonder-would the prosecutor just stand there and let someone beat the crap out of him, his wife or children, if he had a means of defending them? This kind of pathetic trash has cost me what confidence I had with our justice system.
Did you watch the guy? I'm pretty sure that's probably already happened in his life. Maybe more than once.
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