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Old 08-30-2020, 12:52 PM
 
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I was surprised to learn a couple of years ago that homes in a neighborhood in a suburban town not even ten miles from where I grew up did not have running water into the mid-eighties.
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Old 08-30-2020, 12:54 PM
 
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Wrong.
Homelessness and tent cities don’t make an area 3rd world. You don’t know what you’re talking about. There isn’t a nation in this hemisphere that doesn’t have rampant homelessness.
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Old 08-30-2020, 01:06 PM
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Is there anywhere in Los Angeles, Oakland and CA that you would personally NOT move your family into?

There certainly is in Texas I would not move mine.
I don't know that I would move anywhere in Oakland. And vast swaths of LA.
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Old 08-30-2020, 01:09 PM
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To figure this out empirically out of the two countries I’ve been to that I would describe as Third World but borderline First World. Russia and Turkey would qualify. Turkey actually looked a lot better than Russia but I went to Saint Petersburg Russia and Western Turkey (Mostly Western Anatolia) so the regional variation could mean Western Anatolia is more developed than Saint Petersburg Oblast.

Saint Petersburg- 0.887
Mississippi- 0.863
Western Anatolia- 0.855

Which isn’t actually true. I will say Central Saint Petersburg is gorgeous but the outskirts don’t really compare to Western Anatolia which is probably re Jonas tbh.
The lowest developed first world country I’ve been to was Estonia and UAE Which are 0.882 and 0.866.

So to me, Western Anatolia was definitely first world although Turkey as a whole probably isn’t. Saint Petersburg actually felt more third world because the outskirts were just depressing concrete blocks for miles, Russia as a whole probably isn’t first world either although Moscow and Saint Petersburg definitely are.

Mississippi likely has poorer and wealthier parts so the most third world part of Mississippi might not make the cut for first world which I honestly consider around 0.850.

The Mississippi Delta in Western Mississippi is likely the only area in the continental U.S wholly below 0.850 HDI with maybe some regions of Louisiana, West Virginia, Alabama, Arkansas and Kentucky just making the cut.

Besides that, the obvious answer is Puerto Rico which at 0.845 is wholly below developed but will cross that line soon.
If you think St. Petersburg is 3rd World, you have no idea what 3rd World is. Go into some of the surrounding oblasts like Pskov. That is 3rd world.
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Old 08-30-2020, 01:12 PM
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You leftists keep bringing up Appalachia as an example of failed republican leadership but ignore the fact that nearly every suburb and quaint rural area is also run by republicans. Inner city poverty stricken hell holes are universally run by Democrats. Clinton won the poverty vote 8 to 1.
Appalachia has been Democrat since at least the Great Depression and maybe back as long as there have been Democrats. It was the home of Yellow Dog Democrats (They would vote for a yellow dog if it ran as a Democrat). Its just in the last 15 years it is starting to change.
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Old 08-30-2020, 01:16 PM
 
Location: west central Georgia
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I've been reading Dopesick, by Beth Macy, regarding the opoid epidemic in Appalachia, and it referenced a woman who visited her Doctor, who lives in a trailer home with 5 children and no running water, and we're talking about the mid-2000's. It's hard for me to believe that! And, they use an outhouse?

I'm sure the Deep South has some of those areas, but where else?
Are you saying her doctor lives in a trailer home?
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Old 08-30-2020, 01:17 PM
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I was surprised to learn a couple of years ago that homes in a neighborhood in a suburban town not even ten miles from where I grew up did not have running water into the mid-eighties.
That was true in some parts of the southwest part of the city of Houston in the 80s. They annexed these areas in the 50s/early 60s before the state created stricter requirements for adding services with annexation.
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Old 08-30-2020, 01:21 PM
 
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That was true in some parts of the southwest part of the city of Houston in the 80s. They annexed these areas in the 50s/early 60s before the state created stricter requirements for adding services with annexation.
Interesting. At this point, the houses I mentioned have been replaced with modern homes, and there are city services, but it still surprised me to know that they existed into the ‘80s.
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Old 08-30-2020, 01:26 PM
 
Location: King County, WA
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The least educated state is Mississippi, followed by West Virginia, Louisiana, Arkansas and Alabama.
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Old 08-30-2020, 01:30 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Old sugar farms in South Florida such as Bell Glades, pretty all of south east Fl outside the coastal cities. Really most of Florida outside the coast, military bases and 4-5 mid / larger cities.

People dont realize how poor most of Florida is until they move here, get off the interstates and travel the state roads.
Doing so is a real eye- opener.

As sundown approaches, you can see hoards of young children working the fields to harvest tomatoes and melons, alongside adults.

You might trail school buses disgorging hoards of school children at the way off the beaten track, Pie- Oh-My motel.

The permanent camps in the woods. No potable water or plumbing. The annual homeless count tends to overlook those living in the woods.

Take a drive around Palm Beach County, home of Mar-a-lago, and you come upon Belle Glade. You won’t forget it.
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