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Old 09-01-2020, 12:43 PM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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China now has over 200 nukes, & is adding more, so it's time to talk about civil defense.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/chi...heads-pentagon

China has thousands of undergound tunnels, shelters, & bunkers in its cities. Their key citizens have iodine kits, & other medical resources in their homes...like gas masks, & radiation suits.

https://www.cia.gov/library/readingr...00090005-5.pdf

The USA has none of that...other than subways in a few cities. We are grossly unprepared.

We must improve civil defense by deploying medical & protective kits to our citizens. We must start to identify potential underground sites that could be used in an attack, then enhance them to support life. Abandoned mines could be modified for this use.

Why is this important now?

During Covid-19, it became clearer that the U.S. has outsourced too much of its medical & military related manufacturing to China.

Even prior to C-19, China took global control of the refinement of rare Earth minerals, which are key to our national defense. Counter measures are now underway.

The U.S. government, & private sector manufacturers, have already begun shifting procurement away from China, & are reducing America's reliance upon China; for key goods.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapo.../#31f91dd840fe

The U.S. uncoupling from China has begun, & China knows it. The U.S. being less reliant upon Chinese goods, has them on high alert.
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Old 09-01-2020, 12:44 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Dump all chinese goods in the harbor.
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Old 09-01-2020, 03:27 PM
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Location: Where my bills arrive
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The U.S. uncoupling from China has begun, & China knows it. The U.S. being less reliant upon Chinese goods, has them on high alert.
You think so? Go to any public schools who is scrambling to get the supplies they need and all the box are coming from China. And don't rant buy American the manufacturing does not exist in this country to provide the everyday supplies that are needed....
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Old 09-01-2020, 03:32 PM
 
Location: Flower Mound, TX (In the basement)
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F the CCP!

We are at war ...... and we are losing!
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Old 09-01-2020, 03:34 PM
 
Location: southern california
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Far more afraid of Antifa and blm burning my town like they did in June than Chinese nuking their best Customer
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Old 09-01-2020, 04:29 PM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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Dump all chinese goods in the harbor.
I wish we could do that. Our politicians allowed our consumers and economy to grow way too dependent upon Chinese goods, and it took way too long for us all to realize it.

The politicians were taking graft from Fortune 500's, and China, to allow our jobs to be exported there. The American manufacturing worker was thrown under the bus...and the Unions.

The straw that broke the Camels back was when the CCP wouldn't allow the 3M plant in China to ship us N-95 masks when we needed them most. The CCP actually prohibited an American company, who was making N-95 masks in China, to export back to the U.S.!

Once Trump caught wind of that, the sleeping giant was wide awake, and angrier than a Hornet.

Finally, we are seeing all kinds of action to decouple, but it wont be fast, painless, or easy, and it makes us vulnerable in many ways. It must be done, but we need to prepare for all scenario's.
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Old 09-01-2020, 04:36 PM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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You think so? Go to any public schools who is scrambling to get the supplies they need and all the box are coming from China. And don't rant buy American the manufacturing does not exist in this country to provide the everyday supplies that are needed....
I totally agree. We cannot flip a switch and shut off all imports quickly. Heck, we couldn't even stop flights from China at the flip of a switch as it turned out.

It won't be fast, easy, or w/o some pain, and added costs, no doubt, but it must be done.

We have already taken several measures to begin the process. I wont bore y'all, but they are significant, and China's feeling them.

That is why China's suddenty buying a lot more of our stuff than usual. They are trying to smoothe things over from the 3M debaccle. When that went public, it infuriated Trump, the swamp, and all Americans who pay attn to such things.

All Americans must remember that Biden was instrumental in exporting our jobs and manufacturing to China over the past 20 years come Nov 3rd. Biden is why we couldnt get N-95 masks, when we needed them most.
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Old 09-01-2020, 04:39 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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Nuclear war?.......... Nah. Never happen. Doesn't matter anyway.

I grew up in the 50's when we were all prepared. All ya gotta do is "duck and cover".


MAGA! Because a broke China is a safe China.
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Old 09-01-2020, 04:41 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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Beijing Joe will not come to the rescue.
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Old 09-01-2020, 04:42 PM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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Far more afraid of Antifa and blm burning my town like they did in June than Chinese nuking their best Customer
We wont be their best customer forever now that the cat is out of the bag. We are decoupling, and they are feeling it big time.

Civil defense takes long range planning. China is way ahead of us. They will be much less likely to strike us with their rapidly expanding nuclear arsenal if they know our population has been protected to a greater extent than it is now...which is not at all.

Read this, and tell me Antifa scares you more than China over the long haul. Antifa is a short term problem that will be eradicated by moderate Dems, and Independent voters. It will take 20+ years to protect us from a CCP nuclear attack.

We must go underground.

https://www.businessinsider.com/pent...cid=uxbndlbing
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