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Old 11-13-2020, 01:00 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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https://www.defenseone.com/threats/2...record/170012/

Ok people, enough BS.

This is treason, the Pentagon is not allowed to refuse orders from a civilian government.

The precedent set here is the Pentagon is allowed to decide what the president knows and what orders they are to follow.

I guess we live in a military government, but Americans are too blind and selfish to care.

If one of you defends this action as anything less than criminal conduct then you should be exiled from this country.
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Old 11-13-2020, 01:09 PM
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https://www.defenseone.com/threats/2...record/170012/

Ok people, enough BS.

This is treason, the Pentagon is not allowed to refuse orders from a civilian government.

The precedent set here is the Pentagon is allowed to decide what the president knows and what orders they are to follow.

I guess we live in a military government, but Americans are too blind and selfish to care.

If one of you defends this action as anything less than criminal conduct then you should be exiled from this country.
This is the ambassador. But presumably the information came from the military.

Anyone involved should be court martialed and serve time in Leavenworth.

This IS sedition.
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Old 11-13-2020, 01:20 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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https://www.defenseone.com/threats/2...record/170012/

Ok people, enough BS.

This is treason, the Pentagon is not allowed to refuse orders from a civilian government.

The precedent set here is the Pentagon is allowed to decide what the president knows and what orders they are to follow.

I guess we live in a military government, but Americans are too blind and selfish to care.

If one of you defends this action as anything less than criminal conduct then you should be exiled from this country.


I'd guess that precedent was set at least as far back as during the Vietnam War. I wonder if there a statute of limitations for treason?
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Old 11-13-2020, 01:21 PM
 
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But there's no Deep State....
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Old 11-13-2020, 03:02 PM
 
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Permanent War, at least Trump tried to reduce things before the war hawks and deep state stymied him.
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Old 11-13-2020, 03:06 PM
 
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The war machine keeps rolling making billions, nothing can stop it.
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Old 11-13-2020, 03:06 PM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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The true but illegitimate power structure is being exposed more every day, and the People aren't happy.

Change is a-comin'.
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Old 11-13-2020, 03:07 PM
 
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Permanent War, at least Trump tried to reduce things before the war hawks and deep state stymied him.
Is that why military spending increased under Trump?
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Old 11-13-2020, 03:13 PM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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Is that why military spending increased under Trump?
Presidents don't set budgets. They sign laws. Budgets are passed as laws. Laws are written by the legislature.

Is there a recent presidency under which it didn't increase? Real question; I don't know.

I do know that the "military-industrial complex" is a real thing, and it has enormous influence in politics.

Trump managed to do quite a lot while facing a very strong headwind, but some things take time to accomplish, even without the headwind. Something like reducing the influence of an industry that large and that close to government may not even be possible, in any effective sense.
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Old 11-13-2020, 03:16 PM
 
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Could this be why President Trump fired the Secretary of Defense?
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