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Old 09-03-2020, 01:46 AM
 
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Lol...yeah, no.

But thanks for answering.
Of course it could be Florida. Lots of Latinos down there, and they tend to have conservative values. You really think they approve of Democrats defending the violent BLM rioters and Antifa savages? Plus, lots of retired Jews in Dade and Broward counties, and these old-timers aren’t happy with the New Democrat Party, either. (It’s the young, secular Jews who are mostly the progressives.) So, a few points flip among Latinos and Jews to Trump, and the election could swing on that.
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Old 09-03-2020, 01:50 AM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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All we need is a small percentage of them to help flip a few swing states. But you know that...
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Might end up being Florida, and Florida might end up being the deciding state.
Florida, Nevada and Arizona are the only states that Latinos will decide. Thats the 2nd biggest point.

The biggest is that most of these polls are not arguing that any votes are flipping, but rather low turnout for minorities.

This more or less means liberals people of color staying home and GOP people of color voting at the same rate.

That changes the percentages, but not votes, thats why all these polls still have Biden winning.
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Old 09-03-2020, 01:57 AM
 
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Florida, Nevada and Arizona are the only states that Latinos will decide. Thats the 2nd biggest point.

The biggest is that most of these polls are not arguing that any votes are flipping, but rather low turnout for minorities.

This more or less means liberals people of color staying home and GOP people of color voting at the same rate.

That changes the percentages, but not votes, thats why all these polls still have Biden winning.
Except liberals tend to stay home when they’re not enthused, as opposed to the GOP voters, who are more motivated.

I wouldn’t trust the polls. They had Hillary winning.
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Old 09-03-2020, 02:00 AM
 
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Of course it could be Florida. Lots of Latinos down there, and they tend to have conservative values. You really think they approve of Democrats defending the violent BLM rioters and Antifa savages? Plus, lots of retired Jews in Dade and Broward counties, and these old-timers aren’t happy with the New Democrat Party, either. (It’s the young, secular Jews who are mostly the progressives.) So, a few points flip among Latinos and Jews to Trump, and the election could swing on that.
There are LOTS of other Latino groups in Florida that don’t identify with that Conservative tag: Haitians, Puerto Ricans, Dominicans, Mexicans...and they have large numbers. And that’s not including West Indian Anglophones. The Cuban influence has been largely offset over the years by other groups.

And I’m not worried about geriatric Jews in SoFlo. They aren’t the same as geriatric southern evangelicals who spend all day in fear and loathing of everything that isn’t Christian and white. If they weren’t gonna vote for Trump before, they ain’t gonna vote for him now. I’m not buying it.

So like I said...Naaaah. Miss me with it.
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Old 09-03-2020, 02:01 AM
 
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The Dims are helping Trump by encouraging violent rioting and looting in their cities, now we need Trump to aggressively pursue Latino votes to seal the deal.
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Old 09-03-2020, 02:02 AM
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Except liberals tend to stay home when they’re not enthused, as opposed to the GOP voters, who are more motivated.
I agree to an extent here. And this is basically what I said in my post, so im not sure what the " except
part is supposed to mean.

Biden is losing white people by far less than Hillary, many of the white men not willing to vote for a women, no longer have that reason to not vote for Biden, some of them even staying home. Biden is also winning women more than Hillary did.

This is why despite winning 10% more of Latinos because of low turnout, he(Trump) is still losing Florida and Nevada. Its why he is behind in Arizona and in many polls in Texas.


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I wouldn’t trust the polls. They had Hillary winning.
The average of polls were right about all bout 3 states. Saying you dont trust polls because they got 3 states wrong is a little to far for me. Its believing the narrative rather than the reality of the world.
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Old 09-03-2020, 02:06 AM
 
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The Dims are helping Trump by encouraging violent rioting and looting in their cities, now we need Trump to aggressively pursue Latino votes to seal the deal.
He can’t aggressively pursue Latino votes without angering his base. And Trump only cares about his base voters.
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Old 09-03-2020, 02:10 AM
 
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He can’t aggressively pursue Latino votes without angering his base. And Trump only cares about his base voters.
He's aggressively pursued the black vote which will most likely result in the highest black vote for a Republican in a Presidential election in decades. He needs to be just as aggressive in pursuing Latino and Asian voters....his base knows he needs to do that.
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Old 09-03-2020, 02:15 AM
 
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He's aggressively pursued the black vote which will most likely result in the highest black vote for a Republican in a Presidential election in decades. He needs to be just as aggressive in pursuing Latino and Asian voters....his base knows he needs to do that.
Seems like he hasn't done any of that. Hence his problem with the "no new Trump voters" as they say. All his efforts seem to be salvaging the white working class vote which swung enough states for an electoral college win in 2016.
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Old 09-03-2020, 02:27 AM
 
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He's aggressively pursued the black vote which will most likely result in the highest black vote for a Republican in a Presidential election in decades. He needs to be just as aggressive in pursuing Latino and Asian voters....his base knows he needs to do that.
Anyone who is "aggressively pursuing" the black votes would not send out Kanye West as a diversion.

Because that would just take away from the votes he is supposedly "aggressively pursuing".

You only use the Kanye West card when you've given up on winning certain voters.

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