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lol The Southern Strategy. The dems controlled the South until the early 1990s.
It was about appealing to the Northern transplants.
Anything in the last 30-40 years or so that republicans have specifically done that has specifically harmed blacks? War on Drugs? The left really hasn't overturned much from the war on drugs when they've been in power.
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By the way, one of the strategists had this to say.
Lee Atwater:
Atwater: As to the whole Southern strategy that Harry S. Dent, Sr. and others put together in 1968, opposition to the Voting Rights Act would have been a central part of keeping the South. Now you don't have to do that. All that you need to do to keep the South is for Reagan to run in place on the issues that he's campaigned on since 1964, and that's fiscal conservatism, balancing the budget, cut taxes, you know, the whole cluster.
Questioner: But the fact is, isn't it, that Reagan does get to the Wallace voter and to the racist side of the Wallace voter by doing away with legal services, by cutting down on food stamps?
Atwater: Y'all don't quote me on this. You start out in 1954 by saying, (the N word). By 1968 you can't say (the N word)—that hurts you. Backfires. So you say stuff like forced busing, states' rights and all that stuff. You're getting so abstract now [that] you're talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you're talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is [that] blacks get hurt worse than whites. And subconsciously maybe that is part of it. I'm not saying that. But I'm saying that if it is getting that abstract, and that coded, that we are doing away with the racial problem one way or the other. You follow me—because obviously sitting around saying, "We want to cut this", is much more abstract than even the busing thing, and a hell of a lot more abstract than (the N word). So, any way you look at it, race is coming on the back-burner.
Atwater: But Reagan did not have to do a southern strategy for two reasons. Number one, race was not a dominant issue. And number two, the mainstream issues in this campaign had been, quote, southern issues since way back in the sixties. So Reagan goes out and campaigns on the issues of economics and of national defense. The whole campaign was devoid of any kind of racism, any kind of reference. And I'll tell you another thing you all need to think about, that even surprised me, is the lack of interest, really, the lack of knowledge right now in the South among white voters about the Voting Rights Act
Kevin Phillips, the political strategist for Richard Nixon, said this to the New York Times Magazine back in 1970.
Phillips: All the talk about Republicans making inroads into the Negro vote is persiflage. Even 'Jake the Snake' [Senator Jacob Javits of New York] only gets 20 percent. From now on, Republicans are never going to get more than 10 to 20 percent of the Negro vote, and they don't need any more than that... but Republicans would be shortsighted if they weakened the Voting Rights Act. The more Negroes who register as Democrats in the South, the sooner the Negrophobe whites will quit the Democrats and become Republicans. That's where the votes are. Without that prodding from the blacks, the whites will backslide into their old comfortable arrangement with the local Democrats.
By the way, one of the strategists had this to say.
Lee Atwater:
Atwater: As to the whole Southern strategy that Harry S. Dent, Sr. and others put together in 1968, opposition to the Voting Rights Act would have been a central part of keeping the South. Now you don't have to do that. All that you need to do to keep the South is for Reagan to run in place on the issues that he's campaigned on since 1964, and that's fiscal conservatism, balancing the budget, cut taxes, you know, the whole cluster.
Questioner: But the fact is, isn't it, that Reagan does get to the Wallace voter and to the racist side of the Wallace voter by doing away with legal services, by cutting down on food stamps?
Atwater: Y'all don't quote me on this. You start out in 1954 by saying, (the N word). By 1968 you can't say (the N word)—that hurts you. Backfires. So you say stuff like forced busing, states' rights and all that stuff. You're getting so abstract now [that] you're talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you're talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is [that] blacks get hurt worse than whites. And subconsciously maybe that is part of it. I'm not saying that. But I'm saying that if it is getting that abstract, and that coded, that we are doing away with the racial problem one way or the other. You follow me—because obviously sitting around saying, "We want to cut this", is much more abstract than even the busing thing, and a hell of a lot more abstract than (the N word). So, any way you look at it, race is coming on the back-burner.
Atwater: But Reagan did not have to do a southern strategy for two reasons. Number one, race was not a dominant issue. And number two, the mainstream issues in this campaign had been, quote, southern issues since way back in the sixties. So Reagan goes out and campaigns on the issues of economics and of national defense. The whole campaign was devoid of any kind of racism, any kind of reference. And I'll tell you another thing you all need to think about, that even surprised me, is the lack of interest, really, the lack of knowledge right now in the South among white voters about the Voting Rights Act
Kevin Phillips, the political strategist for Richard Nixon, said this to the New York Times Magazine back in 1970.
Phillips: All the talk about Republicans making inroads into the Negro vote is persiflage. Even 'Jake the Snake' [Senator Jacob Javits of New York] only gets 20 percent. From now on, Republicans are never going to get more than 10 to 20 percent of the Negro vote, and they don't need any more than that... but Republicans would be shortsighted if they weakened the Voting Rights Act. The more Negroes who register as Democrats in the South, the sooner the Negrophobe whites will quit the Democrats and become Republicans. That's where the votes are. Without that prodding from the blacks, the whites will backslide into their old comfortable arrangement with the local Democrats.
You don't get it. The answer is in your post. "But the fact is, isn't it, that Reagan does get to the Wallace voter and to the racist side of the Wallace voter by doing away with legal services, by cutting down on food stamps?"
You don't see how that helps the poor, more so blacks? You don't see how the welfare state has created single parent families which is much more prevalent among the poor? And how that affects blacks at a much higher percentage? And that by having less welfare it is better overall? It is not a coincidence that the single parenthood rate started rising at the time Johnsons welfare kicked in.
You don't get it. The answer is in your post. "But the fact is, isn't it, that Reagan does get to the Wallace voter and to the racist side of the Wallace voter by doing away with legal services, by cutting down on food stamps?"
You don't see how that helps the poor, more so blacks? You don't see how the welfare state has created single parent families which is much more prevalent among the poor? And how that affects blacks at a much higher percentage? And that by having less welfare it is better overall? It is not a coincidence that the single parenthood rate started rising at the time Johnsons welfare kicked in.
I put in that bit to show things started and then evolved over time. And this is the thing. Getting rid of food stamps isn't suddenly going to make poor Black people suddenly become middle class. If anything, that will just increase crime because of more crimes of desperation. By the way, there are many women in food stamps who work. If you work and you're on food stamps, you don't make enough. And single parents homes were more prevalent among the Black population than any other group as far back as the 1930s. This has been a nearly perennial issue for years. Single parent rates among Black families were rising as far back as the 1950s. This problem was starting long before Johnson ever got into office.
By the way, you still didn't watch my video or address the rest of my post. You picked that particular paragraph. Address the rest of it.
Rochester has long been a city of radical politics. It was a big hub for abolitionism, as Frederick Douglass founded a newspaper there called The North Star. It was also a center for the suffrage movement.
At the same time, Rochester during the 20th century wasn't always good to Black people. During the 1950s, Rochester's Black population, like alot of other northern cities increased considerably. Many Blacks only held low skilled jobs, as many of the big employers such as Kodak (Eastman-Kodak is headquartered in Rochester). Alot of Blacks lived in poor housing. Rochester had a riot in 1964, before other cities such as Los Angeles and Detroit did. It took 3 days to restore order. Then-Governor Nelson Rockerfeller had to send in the National Guard to restore order. After that, several Black leaders in the churches organized to put pressure on Eastman Kodak in regards to opening up employment for Blacks.
Towards the end of the 20th century, Rochester has declined considerably, like Buffalo and other cities in the Rust Belt region. Industrial restructuring and the decline of jobs has left Rochester in a position similar to other Rust Belt cities. Rochester had 332,488 people in 1950. Today, 205,695 people live there.
Rochester has alot of problems as far back as the 1950s. It also had rioting during the 1960s.
These are just two examples, but this theme of far-Right individuals or groups instigating mayhem has played out in cities across the country this summer.
You really are in deep denial that all these riots are due to Republicans.
The nutty Ted Cruz at least makes sense when it comes to this. He said Federal agents need to start arresting them, charging them with RICO and every other charge they can drum up and "When little Ashleigh from the suburbs realizes that she’s looking at 5 yrs in fed prison instead of heading back to Evergreen State to finish her Bolivian 13th Century Trans Dance degree, the lawyer daddy buys her will get her to sing like a canary about her commie pals."
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