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I don’t want a world without police. Just not where police are excused for the same stuff civilians would be severely punished for...
Ah we agree at last. YES!!!! We should absolutely hold our police to a higher standard than we do thugs, or even average citizens. After all the police are paid public servants. I can excuse honest mistakes. I can even excuse mistakes made in the heat of battle. What I won't excuse is a Ruby Ridge, a Waco, or needlessly kicking doors down and storming in like jack booted thugs. WE are better than that.
Yes, I get that sometimes lives are in danger. I get that the option of waiting isn't realistic. How often is that?
I'll be honest, someone breaks into my home in the middle of the night, I am not thinking, damn did I pay that parking ticket, I am thinking home invasion. I would defend myself and family first, ask questions later. Most sane people would.
Well, they kicked the door in, and the occupant says he thought they were intruders and resorted to self defense. She was shot 8 times. 11 witnesses say the cops never announced their arrival.
If someone kicks your door in, do you not have the right to self defense, especially when there is no announcement the intruders are cops?
Either way, it seems the city will pay her family $12 million and also agreed to reform policing, so its a settled matter.
Ah we agree at last. YES!!!! We should absolutely hold our police to a higher standard than we do thugs, or even average citizens. After all the police are paid public servants. I can excuse honest mistakes. I can even excuse mistakes made in the heat of battle. What I won't excuse is a Ruby Ridge, a Waco, or needlessly kicking doors down and storming in like jack booted thugs. WE are better than that.
Yes, I get that sometimes lives are in danger. I get that the option of waiting isn't realistic. How often is that?
I'll be honest, someone breaks into my home in the middle of the night, I am not thinking, damn did I pay that parking ticket, I am thinking home invasion. I would defend myself and family first, ask questions later. Most sane people would.
You need to pay attention and catch up. They did knock. They did announce that they were the police. It wasn't about a parking ticket and the boyfriend knew it.
Those actions are inherent in their job description. If civilians went around arresting people, they would be severely punished for it.
I think there can be conversations about limiting the situations where cops knock down doors, but that's just a thing that has to happen sometimes.
There are a lot of instances where we cut the police a ton of slack compared to what you or I would get from them.
Do you think that they investigate their own with the same tenacity that they would a civilian? There are enough blatant cases out there to cause anyone to question the system.
He honest. The police roll up on the scene and find me kneeling on a dead man's neck , who I had in handcuffs ,3 of my buddies standing there watching. The reason? I suspected him of using counterfeit money.
What would my outcome be? You know I would be hit with about a dozen felony charges including murder. You know it.
What if I saw someone break into my garage. I then shot them as they ran away? Not even on my property? Some states that is allowed, but not most.
WE need to hold them to as high a standard as they hold us. WE also need an outside agency to investigate them when there is a cop related shooting.
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