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Trump's law suit did not stem from his line of duties.
It relates to a very personal incident that occured prior to his political office.
His words were not 'official' policy or statements.
But to the base it doesn't matter. None of it matters. He has proudly boasted of creeping behind stage watching young women undress, grabbing women inappropriately, paid off a one night stand he had with a porn star...and none of that matters.
I do think this is a mistake on this administration's part.
While the base will defend and spin and support, swing voters may not appreciate this kind of move and may question what COULD happen in the next four years.
Sure it won't change my mind or a true Trump fan...but that critical voters who thought they would give Trump a try in the next election....may not be so keen on this kind of move.
(I also think Trump identifying Tom Cotton, Tom Cruise as potential SCOTUS picks was absolutely the wrong thing. Again doesn't matter what I think or a Trump fan thinks - -what does that person who is a swing voter...not sure those nut jobs are the best picks to brag about).
Trump's law suit did not stem from his line of duties.
It relates to a very personal incident that occured prior to his political office.
His words were not 'official' policy or statements.
But to the base it doesn't matter. None of it matters. He has proudly boasted of creeping behind stage watching young women undress, grabbing women inappropriately, paid off a one night stand he had with a porn star...and none of that matters.
I do think this is a mistake on this administration's part.
While the base will defend and spin and support, swing voters may not appreciate this kind of move and may question what COULD happen in the next four years.
Sure it won't change my mind or a true Trump fan...but that critical voters who thought they would give Trump a try in the next election....may not be so keen on this kind of move.
(I also think Trump identifying Tom Cotton, Tom Cruise as potential SCOTUS picks was absolutely the wrong thing. Again doesn't matter what I think or a Trump fan thinks - -what does that person who is a swing voter...not sure those nut jobs are the best picks to brag about).
Completely false.
There is already case law to establish that an elected official answering questions from the media is doing so as part of their official duties.
You may not like it, but it is established case law.
The alleged defamation occurred while answering media questions, President Trump was asked by the media if allegations were true, President Trump denied the allegations.
It is a common practice for the DOJ to represent an elected official in any lawsuit that stems from their official duties.
Again, like it or not, there is nothing inappropriate, or even uncommon with the DOJ representing an elected official in a lawsuit like this.
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She doesn't have to prove he had sex with her. He stated that she lied and that he never even met her. He stated that her accusation is only about making money. His DNA on her clothing would prove that he had, indeed, met her. And that would undermine everything else he said.
How does DNA on her sleeve prove that he actually met her?
Have you ever been in a crowded place, a party, a restaurant, a concert, etc.? Have you ever tried to get past people in a crowd? A person might put their hand on another person's arm as they are trying to get past them in a crowd, so that the person standing there is aware of the person trying to get by them. How many skin cells do you think you may have left on the sleeves of others by doing that?
Even if he had met her, how many new people do you think he meets in an average day? Far more than you do, right? Do you remember everyone you had met, maybe met just briefly/for a few seconds, over the past 25 years? Most likely not. Not unless they stand out to you in some way, if they don't then you'd forget about them. Even if you are good with faces or names there will always be people that you just do not remember.
How does DNA on her sleeve prove that he actually met her?
Have you ever been in a crowded place, a party, a restaurant, a concert, etc.? Have you ever tried to get past people in a crowd? A person might put their hand on another person's arm as they are trying to get past them in a crowd, so that the person standing there is aware of the person trying to get by them. How many skin cells do you think you may have left on the sleeves of others by doing that?
Even if he had met her, how many new people do you think he meets in an average day? Far more than you do, right? Do you remember everyone you had met, maybe met just briefly/for a few seconds, over the past 25 years? Most likely not. Not unless they stand out to you in some way, if they don't then you'd forget about them. Even if you are good with faces or names there will always be people that you just do not remember.
The DNA on her sleeve demonstrates close contact. It challenges his assertion that he never met her. I'm sure his defense would mount your argument regarding a crowded place. But then the argument is that they came across each other in a crowded place, and she decided to save the dress that he touched, unwashed, for decades......because? And afterwards she confided in two close friends that he raped her? His DNA on her dress undermines him, not her.
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The DNA on her sleeve demonstrates close contact. It challenges his assertion that he never met her. I'm sure his defense would mount your argument regarding a crowded place. But then the argument is that they came across each other in a crowded place, and she decided to save the dress that he touched, unwashed, for decades......because? And afterwards she confided in two close friends that he raped her? His DNA on her dress undermines him, not her.
"The DNA on her sleeve demonstrates close contact."
Close contact does not equal actual meeting. It is possible that they did meet, it is just as possible that it was a few second meet and greet and forgettable. Either way, if it is his DNA and it was just a close contact, or even a forgettable few second greet, then the Left would be using it against him, and you know they would. Heck there are some, to this day, who are claiming he'd raped her and there is semen on her dress, even though there is absolutely no evidence of a rape and absolutely no semen on the dress. Just imagine how they would be if it turns out it was a close contact or a forgettable meeting.
Why did she wait so long, when she knew people's, and Trump's, memories would have faded?
Why did she refuse DeBlasio's offer for the investigative department of the police to investigate if she'd only file a complaint?
Why did she wait until she had a book to push before she made it public?
Would accusing a sitting president for something that may/may not have happened 25 years ago give her book more traction?
"The DNA on her sleeve demonstrates close contact."
Close contact does not equal actual meeting. It is possible that they did meet, it is just as possible that it was a few second meet and greet and forgettable. Either way, if it is his DNA and it was just a close contact, or even a forgettable few second greet, then the Left would be using it against him, and you know they would. Heck there are some, to this day, who are claiming he'd raped her and there is semen on her dress, even though there is absolutely no evidence of a rape and absolutely no semen on the dress. Just imagine how they would be if it turns out it was a close contact or a forgettable meeting.
Why did she wait so long, when she knew people's, and Trump's, memories would have faded?
Why did she refuse DeBlasio's offer for the investigative department of the police to investigate if she'd only file a complaint?
Why did she wait until she had a book to push before she made it public?
Would accusing a sitting president for something that may/may not have happened 25 years ago give her book more traction?
When she saved the dress, she had no idea that Trump would ever be President. So please explain why someone would save a dress for decades. That's the crux of this. It's not like she had a crush on a guy and he brushed her shoulder with his hand and she swooned and said, I'll never wash this dress again. If the dress does have his DNA on it (and really, if he pulled her tights down, wouldn't it have been easy to save the tights as well?) then they had some kind of encounter. Which rebuts his assertion that he never met her.
As for not reporting it at the time, women often don't. It's not that they want to wait decades to report it, it's that at the time of an incident, a woman is traumatized, and reporting it adds to the trauma. In the 1990's she would have had to deal with people and even the court system doubting her, and would she have actually accomplished sending Trump to prison? Remember the movie, The Accused. It's based on a true story. The waitress who was raped by three men while the bar patrons cheered the rapists on? Her rape was brutal, but the court system brutalized her all over again. That was the reality this woman had in front of her if she pressed charges.
I believe she included it in her book because a sexual assault is an integral part of this woman's story. It changes your life. She didn't know back then that he would become the President of the United States, but he did. She did tell two friends at the time what had happened, so it's not like she made it up recently. She did save the dress she was wearing for a reason.
Hilarious. Explain how she can prove he had sex with her with his DNA. Stop and think about what you are claiming. Do you understand that the Petri dish of her sleeve did not contain any semen?
OK, Trump has been sued over 4000 times. I was being generous.
As for the DNA, I assume he slobbered all over her.
When she saved the dress, she had no idea that Trump would ever be President. So please explain why someone would save a dress for decades. That's the crux of this. It's not like she had a crush on a guy and he brushed her shoulder with his hand and she swooned and said, I'll never wash this dress again. If the dress does have his DNA on it (and really, if he pulled her tights down, wouldn't it have been easy to save the tights as well?) then they had some kind of encounter. Which rebuts his assertion that he never met her.
Maybe she saved the dress as evidence? That seems likely.
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