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Old 09-12-2020, 01:10 PM
 
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However, in the binary world of the Jim Crow South, where you were either black or white, Asians didn't fit in either pigeonhole. For the purposes of the segregation laws, their status had to be defined. And so they were defined as being a group that was allowed to use the white facilities. But this doesn't mean that they were considered white.
The generation that grew up during segregation confirms that they were actually regarded as white

Listener2307 is an active poster here and he confided that his adopted Chinese sister was considered white in the 50s.

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There were no other races recognized; you were either Black or White. My Chinese sister was regarded as White, and there was a Tahitian girl who was also regarded as White.

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And the Tahitian girl was white and went to the white schools during segregation. So Pacific islanders were white.

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I knew Cubans who were very dark and they were not segregated away from White people. (Alabama, 1955)

If you were not a Negro then you were White.

Like I said, my Chinese sister and her Tahitian friend both went to the White high school.
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EVERYBODY was white.
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Old 09-12-2020, 02:04 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley, CA
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The generation that grew up during segregation confirms that they were actually regarded as white

Listener2307 is an active poster here and he confided that his adopted Chinese sister was considered white in the 50s.



And the Tahitian girl was white and went to the white schools during segregation. So Pacific islanders were white.



EVERYBODY was white.
Uh no. That wasn't the case in Mississippi. Chinese often operated in a zone that was neither white nor black there.

And definitely wasn't the case in California.
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Old 09-12-2020, 02:52 PM
 
Location: So Cal
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Identity politics is not good, no good can come out of it.

The OP strikes me as a normal average guy. OP, you do you and don't put so much thought into it. I am white so in all fairness I don't understand or know the dynamic personally but whatever.
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Old 09-12-2020, 03:57 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley, CA
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Identity politics is not good, no good can come out of it.

The OP strikes me as a normal average guy. OP, you do you and don't put so much thought into it. I am white so in all fairness I don't understand or know the dynamic personally but whatever.
Well at least I have to give you some credit for admitting that and not trying to lecture people of color or minorities on how they should feel.

I happen to be a "member of the tribe" - same ethnicity as him, but diametrically opposite in terms of ideology - and have called him out for his neo-Confederate sympathies.
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Old 09-12-2020, 04:19 PM
 
Location: So Cal
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Well at least I have to give you some credit for admitting that and not trying to lecture people of color or minorities on how they should feel.

I happen to be a "member of the tribe" - same ethnicity as him, but diametrically opposite in terms of ideology - and have called him out for his neo-Confederate sympathies.
And that is fine, free speech and all.

I'm personally getting a bit race weary at this point, like Rodney King said, can't we all just get along here?
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Old 09-12-2020, 07:41 PM
 
Location: Howard County, Maryland
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The generation that grew up during segregation confirms that they were actually regarded as white

Listener2307 is an active poster here and he confided that his adopted Chinese sister was considered white in the 50s.



And the Tahitian girl was white and went to the white schools during segregation. So Pacific islanders were white.



EVERYBODY was white.
It would be interesting if Listener2307 could clarify this remark. Was his Chinese-born sister really considered "white"? Or was she considered "not black"? These two are not synonymous, even though they would both result in her being allowed to use the white facilities.
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Old 09-12-2020, 08:06 PM
 
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It would be interesting if Listener2307 could clarify this remark. Was his Chinese-born sister really considered "white"? Or was she considered "not black"? These two are not synonymous, even though they would both result in her being allowed to use the white facilities.
He has very clearly explained this multiple times before. Back then, if you were not a negro, you were white. They were actually regarded as white, and he believed that when he was growing up.

White was legally defined as all persons who were not of African descent. Listener2307's anecdote confirms that the concept was real (it wasn't just on paper). People actually believed that they were white in real life.
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Old 09-13-2020, 05:45 AM
 
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Most people who have lived in the U.S. for a significant period of time (5 years or more) are assimilated, unless very elderly. Trying to claim that other people aren’t assimilated because they aren’t just like you is silly.
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Old 09-19-2020, 11:18 PM
 
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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Recently I was told by a white person that she never saw Asians as "people of color", and that she mainly associated the term with black people.

Hispanics do seem to fit in between, and I've noticed a lot of it depends on their level of assimilation. I do know that when the media calls you a "white Hispanic" its not good!
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Old 09-19-2020, 11:21 PM
 
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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But you have nothing to say about Republicans ralliying with guns, and not legally in front of state Capitol buildings.

And you also say “they thought you were Indian when they saw you,” but yet you choose to identify as Indian-American. In what proximity to “Indianness” do you or don’t identify.

Or exactly how far is Indian American from Indian.

And I will assume you aren’t several generations removed from India.
Bobby Jindal was Louisiana's first minority governor and while he was criticized during his term, many people now remember him fondly especially compared to the Democrat in power now. He famouly said he didn't believe in hyphenated Americans and believed in a unified American identity, and he also opposed efforts to take down the Confederate flag in Louisiana. I think the Confederate flag is part of Southern regional identity (not connected to any race) and a symbol of standing up to an overbearing federal government, not of racism or slavery despite what the liberals and the media say.
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