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Old 09-12-2020, 09:20 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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Fatal fail of a thread.

President Trump is testing a theory that only citizens should be counted in allocating the House of Representatives and that illegal aliens shouldn't be. (undocumented means you left them at home, not that you never had them!)

He isn't proposing any change to the census.
That theory fails the basic test of constitutionality.

It says in the Constitution that all persons are to be counted, not nationals, not citizens. All persons present includes illegal aliens.

Correct ruling again slapping down Donald for acting like an autocrat above the law.
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Old 09-12-2020, 11:34 PM
 
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Yesterday, a three judge panel signed an injunction that will prevent Trump from subtracting undocumented immigrants from the census. Given the timing of this order, this is likely a fatal blow to Trump’s unlawful attempt at creating new, unapproved rules for the census.

We have witnessed Trump go down in flames, again and again, in federal court over unlawful executive actions. Trump’s authoritarian impulse leads him to disregard well-established federal law and process to achieve his goals. At his very core, he does not understand nor does he respect our nation’s founding principles or its laws. That is the reason he has been bench slapped repeatedly, in humiliating fashion, as exemplified by this census meddling legal challenge. The law is above Trump, not the other way around. This is something Trump will never understand, I’m afraid.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/don...e-u-s-n1239826
You guys are on the side of the isle that still hasn't accepted election results from 2016 and is now engaging in terrorist riots, correct?

As a result, I'm unsure that you have practical licence to use the phrase "authoritarian impulse".

The Judicial branch is not above the Executive branch in terms of representing and asserting the nations "founding principles", and a judicial ruling is not and has never been couched as "law enforcement" as you try to do here.

The process that you are describing falls under the "checks and balances" concept. Next week or month, some judge will rule for Trump. Which, using your embarassing logic, would imply that the legislative or judicial branch was flouting the nations "founding pricniples or its laws" to have been prior against what is now allowed.

Though, one of the nation's implicit principles is to impart educations that are sufficient enough to teach the avoidance of seventh grade hyperbole in public writing.

We know that you are for the inclusion of non-citizens in the census toward a de facto corruption of our national democracy. That's okay, We're well aware that the left hates the Nation. One day, that injustice will be corrected. Three New York Judges won't be able to stop that over the long run.
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Old 09-12-2020, 11:38 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Trump concerned about Illegal immigrants being counted yet he has no problem with them working in meat packing plants.
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Old 09-12-2020, 11:38 PM
 
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The constitution requires all people to be counted. The court ruling was therefore to be expected, even Trump would have known it would turn out this way.

This was just red meat for the base, which doesn't give a damn about the constitution.
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Old 09-12-2020, 11:49 PM
 
Location: Out there somewhere...a traveling man.
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You people should be glad everyone is counted, it means more Federal money given, put into the coffers your state/county/city.
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Old 09-13-2020, 12:45 AM
 
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You guys are on the side of the isle that still hasn't accepted election results from 2016 and is now engaging in terrorist riots, correct?
Incorrect.

Brevity is beautiful, try it.
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Old 09-13-2020, 03:09 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Why in the world should illegal aliens be counted in the census? An no, there is no such thing as an undocumented immigrant either.

Trump has gone down in flames? lol, the only time he has gone down in flames so to speak is by anti-American, liberal judges ruling from the bench.

Here's a win for him right here and this is only one of them.

The U.S. Supreme Court has given the Trump administration another gigantic immigration victory.

The nation’s highest court ruled 7-2 that the federal government can deport illegal aliens, including those seeking asylum, quickly and with only limited judicial review.

"The nation’s highest court ruled 7-2 that the federal government can deport illegal aliens, including those seeking asylum, quickly and with only limited judicial review?.

https://ussanews.com/News1/2020/09/1...-asylum-cases/
Because the Census wants a Enumeration of those who are residing in the US illegal or not.
If you have a problem with that take it up with Congress.
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Old 09-13-2020, 03:29 AM
 
Location: California
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I don't want undocumented (ILLEGAL) people counted in the census or giving states more representation. That's UnAmerican. You can't justify it logically, only politically.
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Old 09-13-2020, 04:50 AM
 
Location: West Coast U.S.A.
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Trump concerned about Illegal immigrants being counted yet he has no problem with them working in meat packing plants.
Or working at hotels, golf courses, and building sites. More left over to spend on himself and pay the lawyers that way.
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Old 09-13-2020, 05:04 AM
 
Location: West Coast U.S.A.
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I don't want undocumented (ILLEGAL) people counted in the census or giving states more representation. That's UnAmerican. You can't justify it logically, only politically.
I agree that illegals shouldn't count towards state representation. But it is useful to have an accurate picture of the total population of areas and it would be nice to have an idea what percentage of that population is illegals. (And yes, I realize the Census doesn't answer that last question.)
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