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So? At least he had a son that served. And how many times did Trump dodge the draft with his "bone spurs"? One is no worse than the other if anyone is going to cast aspersions of draft dodging.
"At least he had a son that served." Are we now supposed to vote for someone based on what thier kids did?
"I have an entire extended family of Catholics",which makes them hypocrites.
How can someone who "claims" to be Catholic vote for someone who supports abortion?
The same way a Catholic votes for someone who supports the death penalty, any form of birth control, fertility treatments, non-defensive foreign wars, gay marriage, or cruel treatment of immigrants. Welcome to the Catholic Church were any single decision can land you in Hell.
One other thing to keep in mind is their are plenty of Catholic women who would not have an abortion but do not like being lectured by priests or male politicians about those issues. And there is a mall subset of Catholics that resent the church being winnowed down to only its abortion stance by non-Catholics.
So? At least he had a son that served. And how many times did Trump dodge the draft with his "bone spurs"? One is no worse than the other if anyone is going to cast aspersions of draft dodging.
"At least he had a son that served." Are we now supposed to vote for someone based on what thier kids did?
Not at all.
But there certainly is a disdain for service in the Trump family, in contrast to the Biden family and this is an indication of that.
Trump's grandfather dodged the draft in Germany, and came to North America to run a bordello (yes that's right, the Trump family fortune started with a whorehouse). The son Fred Trump never served, but was arrested in New York marching as a ku klux klansman. The apple does not fall far from the tree, it seems.
Donald had the personal family physician get him five deferments for a mythical ailment. One deferment for every year John McCain spent in captivity under torture. Trump referred to his struggles with VD as his personal Vietnam.
Donald Trump threatened to cut his son Don Jr off financially if he volunteered for service. Donald disdains our vets and doesn't want his kids to be suckers. Donald will not defend our troops who have been murdered at the behest of his friend Vladimir. He calls our young people in uniform losers. At least Joe raised his kids in an environment that always respected public service and the sacrifices our vets make for the people of this country.
But what if a labor union supports Republicans? As for Churches, didn't Trump boast to evangelicals that he abolished the Johnson Amendment, so they can endorse candidates they want?
Yes, he got rid of the horrible Johnson amendment that muzzled churches' free speech. Another amendment brought to you by the Dems.
"At least he had a son that served." Are we now supposed to vote for someone based on what thier kids did?
No. I just threw that factoid in for free. The main point I was making to the person I was responding to was their hypocrisy in talking about Biden's "draft dodging" without mentioning Trump's as well.
Oh, I don't they embrace free speech, unless it is what they want to hear. Otherwise, run for cover!
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No Catholic “can” vote Biden?
I have an entire extended family of Catholics who WILL vote Biden. Trump is one of the biggest sinners we know.
Should that be a "practicing" Catholic then? Will you have to "confess" that? Maybe abortion isn't an issue you feel is relevant. I thought that practicing Catholics followed the guidance of the Church.
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That Roman Catholics should vote as a block based on the teachings of Rome is a stereotype and a prejudice that was long ago rejected: that their faith was not American and under the control of a foreign body. Even predominantly Ireland has legalized abortion. Are the Irish are not Roman Catholic enough?
Sadly, the some churches trying to keep butts in the seats have changed the word of God to fit what the congregation wanted.
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Father Altman is preaching against Church pedos as well, why do you think some in the Church want to shut him up?
We can look to our Church to tell us what is right and decide who to vote for, Nothing wrong with that. It's discrimination against free speech if not allowed. Discrimination against religion.
If he were embracing Biden, they would all be on their knees worshiping him.
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Can't Catholics think for themselves and have their own innate send of right? Do they honestly need the Church to tell them who to vote for? That seems, IMHO, like the Church overstepping its bounds, which should be limited to spiritual, not temporal matters.
You don't understand much about church now do you? Generally, the members of a church embrace a certain interpretation of the Bible, and that is why they choose to be a member. Opposing abortion is a VERY spiritual thing.
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The Catholic church would be against sterilization which is happening in poor countries. That is something PP and Bill Gates would be in favor of for population control.
Another reason not to vote Democrat.
You won't convince them of anything that is logical. They simply "parrot" what they have heard on MSM.
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"I have an entire extended family of Catholics",which makes them hypocrites.
How can someone who "claims" to be Catholic vote for someone who supports abortion?
They don't consider abortion an important issue like a free check every month whether you work or not, student loan forgiveness. So, a few babies are terminated, but the free government services from Uncle ........
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"At least he had a son that served." Are we now supposed to vote for someone based on what thier kids did?
Wouldn't that be an additional problem and is a problem for Biden? The cushy jobs Biden got his drug-addicted son............. (That's probably the son that took after Dad.)
Wonder if the abortion providers ask the religion of their patients? Any Catholics?
The church is against birth control too, but betcha lots of Catholic women ignore that teaching.
When the church condemns and makes capitol punishment a sin, I'll pay attention to their abortion position.
Wonder if the abortion providers ask the religion of their patients? Any Catholics?
The church is against birth control too, but betcha lots of Catholic women ignore that teaching.
When the church condemns and makes capitol punishment a sin, I'll pay attention to their abortion position.
How can someone who "claims" to be Catholic vote for someone who supports abortion?
How can someone who claims to be a Christian vote for Trump?
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