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View Poll Results: Will Trump seat a new SCOTUS justice?
Yes, before the election 200 61.73%
Yes, but after the election (win or lose) 73 22.53%
No, he will lose the election or the senate and won't get his choice seated 51 15.74%
Voters: 324. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-25-2020, 11:15 AM
 
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The funny part is, it doesn't matter whether the President is Donald Trump or Donald Duck, if he is a conservative, he will be likened to Adolph H. by the Far Left. ANY deviation from what they want (which ultimately is some form of Marxism) will be painted as the "end of the world", with a brush made of exaggeration, disinformation, and outright lies. These dodo's have no credibility, because they simply make stuff up as they go along, it's like arguing with spoiled children, chanting and rhyming their mantra over and over again until the adults in the room give in and provide them with what they want. Orange Man Bad! Orange Man Bad! We don't like it give us what we had!

What the adults need to do this November, is to have some system whereby one's mail-in ballot is coded via secure password, so the voter can verify their vote was counted as intended. Once the Left finds out they can rig an election, it's all over for freedom in this country, it will turn into North Korea.
All of you scared republicans/Trumper's sitting around here
crying and worrying about whether the poorly qualified Trump
gets another four years to ruin the world. Protecting the man with a very
fragile teeny, tiny ego.

It will take all of you probably a few decades before you'll feel secure
enough to admit what a bad , bad choice Trump was.

 
Old 09-25-2020, 11:34 AM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Originally Posted by Curly Q. Bobalink View Post
The funny part is, it doesn't matter whether the President is Donald Trump or Donald Duck, if he is a conservative, he will be likened to Adolph H. by the Far Left. ANY deviation from what they want (which ultimately is some form of Marxism) will be painted as the "end of the world", with a brush made of exaggeration, disinformation, and outright lies. These dodo's have no credibility, because they simply make stuff up as they go along, it's like arguing with spoiled children, chanting and rhyming their mantra over and over again until the adults in the room give in and provide them with what they want. Orange Man Bad! Orange Man Bad! We don't like it give us what we had!

What the adults need to do this November, is to have some system whereby one's mail-in ballot is coded via secure password, so the voter can verify their vote was counted as intended. Once the Left finds out they can rig an election, it's all over for freedom in this country, it will turn into North Korea.
There is no such system for in person votes. For all anyone knows, Putin or Xi hacked the machines in use. At least with mail in you can check that your ballot was delivered and counted (though Putin could hack that too). There is going to have to be some faith in the process and the commitment of election officials and workers to democracy. Trump, Putin, and their flunkies are trying to destroy this faith apparently in an effort to overthrow the US.
 
Old 09-25-2020, 11:51 AM
 
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You think America has improved under Trump's leadership?

He has turned all of us in to enemies of each other, he has
offended practically the whole world except Israel, Russia and Saudi Arabia.

He thrives on creating chaos so here we are , a giant chaotic country.

All the mess going on right now is owned by our fearless leader tRump.
Exactly. I'd like to know what all these improvements are.
 
Old 09-25-2020, 11:55 AM
 
Location: Nowhere
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There is going to have to be some faith in the process .
Have "faith" in a system that sanctions Nazi-like hatred of whites.


Nah...I have zero faith in the bureaucrats in this country to run a fair election via "mail-in" third-worldesque lunacy.


It should be IN-PERSON voting PERIOD...no exceptions except for perhaps military to use absentee ballots.
 
Old 09-25-2020, 02:44 PM
 
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Originally Posted by movedtothecoast View Post
All of you scared republicans/Trumper's sitting around here
crying and worrying about whether the poorly qualified Trump
gets another four years to ruin the world. Protecting the man with a very
fragile teeny, tiny ego.

It will take all of you probably a few decades before you'll feel secure
enough to admit what a bad , bad choice Trump was.
Hey, one request: As a white guy, when you gas me and stick me in an oven once you take over, can you at least take care of my dogs afterward? Or will they be shipped off to North Korea for Kim's dinner?

By the way, Good Luck With That.
 
Old 09-25-2020, 03:53 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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If he moves forward with this nomination and he looks like he will it will just add more divisiveness as if it wasn't bad already. Waiting until next year would have been the better decision but he thrives on chaos and division.
 
Old 09-25-2020, 03:57 PM
 
Location: Howard County, Maryland
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If he moves forward with this nomination and he looks like he will it will just add more divisiveness as if it wasn't bad already. Waiting until next year would have been the better decision but he thrives on chaos and division.
You don't win at the "sport" of politics by throwing away your advantages and ceding them to the other side. If the roles were reversed, and it was a Democratic president and senate wanting to replace a conservative justice, you and I both know that they'd do it, without the slightest qualms. I, for one, am pleased that President Trump and Senate Majority Leader McConnell are finally "playing to win" instead of rolling over, like so many other Republicans have done.
 
Old 09-25-2020, 04:28 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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You don't win at the "sport" of politics by throwing away your advantages and ceding them to the other side. If the roles were reversed, and it was a Democratic president and senate wanting to replace a conservative justice, you and I both know that they'd do it, without the slightest qualms. I, for one, am pleased that President Trump and Senate Majority Leader McConnell are finally "playing to win" instead of rolling over, like so many other Republicans have done.
No I don't believe the democrats would have stolen a pick as the republicans did in 2016 and this current pick is just a reaction to McConnell changing his rule from 2016. A normal year I agree the president should have 4 years to replace a judge, but this year McConnell basically said he will do whatever he wants even changing his own rule.

All this will add to the current climate and going forward it will make bipartisan compromise absolutely impossible and for what. The republicans don't even know what they expect to change in an already conservative court, what are the decisions they expect in the future. The ACA will likely lose in November with or without an appointment.

This is not "winning" for the American people, this is hyper partisanship that is destroying the country, this is not a game.
 
Old 09-25-2020, 05:47 PM
 
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The President is doing the right thing and his job actually. The judge is a constitutional scholar and will interpret the laws from that background. She is one the best choices for the job.
 
Old 09-25-2020, 07:16 PM
 
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No I don't believe the democrats would have stolen a pick as the republicans did in 2016 and this current pick is just a reaction to McConnell changing his rule from 2016. A normal year I agree the president should have 4 years to replace a judge, but this year McConnell basically said he will do whatever he wants even changing his own rule.

All this will add to the current climate and going forward it will make bipartisan compromise absolutely impossible and for what. The republicans don't even know what they expect to change in an already conservative court, what are the decisions they expect in the future. The ACA will likely lose in November with or without an appointment.

This is not "winning" for the American people, this is hyper partisanship that is destroying the country, this is not a game.
Separation of Powers. The President does NOT get to appoint a Supreme Court Justice. Neither does the Senate. It is a "joint" venture between the two. In 2016, Obama was allowed to nominate Garland. The Senate was allowed to NOT confirm him. They are checks on each other, and a candidate has to meet the qualifications of both entities in order to be appointed to the office. Was McConnell "wrong" to not allow a vote? In the minds of the Dems, yes - but he did NOTHING that was disallowed by the law.

In the current case, Trump has the ability (actually, the "duty") to make a nomination. The Senate is allowed to confirm that nomination, or to reject it. If the Senate was majority Dem, they would likely reject the nomination of Trump's likely nomination. Since they are majority R, they will likely confirm. It's not Rocket Science, it's the way the system is set up. For example, Obama nominated both Kagan and Sotomayor, and a Democrat-controlled Senate confirmed them. Welcome to "politics". Not always pretty. Don't pretend that this hasn't been happening for almost two hundred and fifty years.
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