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Old 09-21-2020, 08:54 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Politicians who lie its nothing new. But the Dems have a treasure trove of them on tape being hypocrites it will come in handy.

 
Old 09-21-2020, 08:54 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Igor Blevin View Post
Yep, the Republicans are hypocrites. Just like the Democrats who wanted to ram through a new SCOTUS justice at the end of Obama's second term. In both cases, it is just a matter of political expediency.

OP -- If you are waiting for a politician in any party who is not a hypocrite, not only are in for a very long wait (like forever) but you are impossibly naive.
Obama nominated Garland in March. That was hardly the end of his second term.
 
Old 09-21-2020, 08:55 PM
 
Location: Chicago Area
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Video of what Republicans said in the past regarding electing a Supreme court Justice inElection Year - Hypocrites?
Oh it's a given that neither side has any principles on this issue. Ever since the Supreme Court became a thing, the process of nominating and confirming has been loaded to the gills with slimy partisan bickering.

The only rules that exist: If you can do a thing, you do that thing. If the opposition does something and you can't stop them, throw a huge huge tantrum over it.

There's a fun story behind each of the top 10 longest vacancies in Supreme Court history. (The vacancy created by Anthony Scalia dying doesn't even crack the top 10 by the way.)

There's an equally fun story behind each of the top 10 fastest confirmations, but I can't find the article for that. Had it but lost it, but there's this: https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/202...-less-46-days/

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Some of the Justices were confirmed within 14 days:
Mahlon Pitney —23
John Paul Stevens —19
Sherman Minton —19
Warren Burger —17 (*became Chief Justice)
Charles Whittaker —17
Tom Clark —16
Pierce Butler —16
Harlan Stone —15 (*became Chief Justice)
William Douglas —15
Abe Fortas —14
Fred Vinson —14 (*became Chief Justice)
The Senate has, on average, taken 23 days to vote on all Supreme Court nominees for the entire history of the Supreme Court. Current Supreme Court justices were confirmed by the Senate an average of 67 days after nomination. Ruth Bader Ginsberg was confirmed in 42 days. https://checkyourfact.com/2018/07/03...court-nominee/
 
Old 09-21-2020, 09:07 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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... for the President to nominate and the Senate to confirm in an election year.
Why?

One of the tasks required of the President by the Constitution, is to nominate Justices when there's a vacancy.

And one of the tasks required of the Senate by the Constitution, is to provide "advice and consent" of those nominees. Meaning, formally lay out its acceptance or rejection of the nominee.

Is there some law saying the President must stop being President, and Senators must stop being Senators, when an election is approaching?
 
Old 09-21-2020, 09:08 PM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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Have the people elected a bunch of Republican Hypocrites? Liars? Opportunists?

Please watch this video on what Republicans have said (i.e. they gave their word) in 2016 when then President Obama was in term in regards to to selecting a Supreme court Justice in an election year:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pR7YdCK70cA

The above video has no commentary, so their is no bias that can be claimed. It is strictly video of what Republicans have said on the record when a Democrat was President. It is very important to watch the video in its entirety (it is short - 4 minutes - and hear what the Republicans have said on this topic).

Please keep in mind, a Supreme court justice has not been selected in an election year for over 80 years, even though we have had both Democrats and Republicans in office. There is a reason why this has not been done up until this point and some of the Republicans in the video have touched on this.

After watching the video, what have Republicans said why a Supreme Court justice should not be selected in an election year?
"The president is elected for four years not three years, so the power he has in year three continues into year four."

“Maybe members of the Senate will wake up and appreciate that that’s how it should be."

- Justice Ginsburg
 
Old 09-21-2020, 09:11 PM
 
Location: southern california
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This is so funny like after having our shops burned and looted and having to move to escape the mobs we want a rep from the responsible party to sit on the Supreme Court ?
 
Old 09-21-2020, 09:11 PM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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No one so far has answered the question that was the last sentence of the original post.

The answer is why independents like myself are concerned about an expansion or longstanding overly biased representation of any of the 3 branches of government, regardless of it is done by (or largely held by) any political affiliation.

The answer to that question is why statements (and thoughts) like below are very concerning:

President Trump stated today:

"When you have the Senate, when you have the votes, you can sort of do what you want as long as you have it"

There is a reason why what the President and some Republicans are saying they want to do has not been done in 80 years, even though both political affiliations have been in office during that time.

Again I ask the question:
After watching the video, what have Republicans said why a Supreme Court justice should not be selected in an election year?
Republicans invoked the "Biden Rule". Because the could. You'd be foolish to believe that Democrats would do otherwise.
 
Old 09-21-2020, 09:23 PM
 
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Mitch McConnell doesn’t care what the majority of Americans think about anything.

This is the rare mess we can’t blame on Trump. He has no say in what justices are chosen. He gets a list from the Federalist Society and does what Mitch tells him to do.
 
Old 09-21-2020, 09:35 PM
 
Location: West Palm Beach, FL
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Mitch McConnell doesn’t care what the majority of Americans think about anything.

This is the rare mess we can’t blame on Trump. He has no say in what justices are chosen. He gets a list from the Federalist Society and does what Mitch tells him to do.
We can blame Democrats for destroying the integrity of the process, however. After the Kavanaugh debacle, I hope McConnell skips having a hearing. There is no reason to give the Democrats a platform to smear and destroy whoever gets nominated.
 
Old 09-21-2020, 09:35 PM
 
Location: Fort Myers, FL
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Trump is not well-liked by many Republican voters, who hold their nose and vote for him anyway because the issue that motivates them is the make up of the courts. Once a Conservative justice is seated, they may not be so motivated to vote for Trump any longer. If he holds out making a nomination, then more voters may be motivated to go to the polls to ensure the court moves right, and in the process give Trump a second term. Either way Trump jumps, he’s taking a risk.
LMAO! I know you don't believe any of that is true.
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