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The Democrat Cities ARE “Burning” ... you just think that is Hunky-Dorie.
Wallow in your Ideology.
I LIVE in one of those cities. They are fine. Stop reading breitbart, stop watching fox news. Trump's propaganda aside, things are fine. What does ideology have to do with me being able to walk down the street and see it's nothing like what fringe outlets like fox and breitbart claim it is?
I live in Phoenix metro and have for 40 years. Just curious what your take is on the flood of people moving from CA to AZ. I assume some are leaving for jobs, lower taxes and lower cost of living. And some want to leave the craziness. But do you think at least some who come here from CA don't make the connection between voting for democrats and the reasons they are leaving CA?
I've seen a few "Don't California My Arizona" stickers on cars in the last few months because the assumption among many here is they will start voting democrat and AZ will follow CA, which doesn't look good from our perspective.
I bought my place in 98. The new building right next to me just built, townhomes. Just sold for 780k.
****ing apartment just sold for more than three quarters of a million dollars.
I'm sitting on 300K of equity. That is a huge reason, coupled with the lefty poltics and extreme expense is why so many people are leaving the state.
I'm 51, I could buy a house in AZ for free or have a small 40k mortgage. I can retire at 55 instead of 75. I can have streets that aren't filled with drug addicts.....
I can enjoy a **** Ton less traffic... i mean just go down the line of all of the reasons why CA sucks, comparing to AZ.
I LIVE in one of those cities. They are fine. Stop reading breitbart, stop watching fox news. Trump's propaganda aside, things are fine. What does ideology have to do with me being able to walk down the street and see it's nothing like what fringe outlets like fox and breitbart claim it is?
You probably never grew up in a area outside the US which lends your ignorance to the dangers of Socialism. There are patriots that understand the US's capitalist democratic founding and why people like me flock here because of the country's success.
I bought my place in 98. The new building right next to me just built, townhomes. Just sold for 780k.
****ing apartment just sold for more than three quarters of a million dollars.
I'm sitting on 300K of equity. That is a huge reason, coupled with the lefty poltics and extreme expense is why so many people are leaving the state.
I'm 51, I could buy a house in AZ for free or have a small 40k mortgage. I can retire at 55 instead of 75. I can have streets that aren't filled with drug addicts.....
I can enjoy a **** Ton less traffic... i mean just go down the line of all of the reasons why CA sucks, comparing to AZ.
Yeah flip side of that is you lose that equity growth through appreciation in more stagnant areas. Buddy and I graduated at the same time and he went down to Austin and I stayed in Dayton, OH. Both bought our first houses at 23. Both sold our houses and moved around a decade later. I sold our house for $1,000 more than I bought it for and he walked away with 6 figure equity. Who was better off?
When referring to a metropolitan region, there’s usually quite a bit of variation. The large city associated with where I live is liberal while many of the surrounding municipalities are more conservative. I wouldn’t refer to any of them as a hellhole. The city is great. So is the suburban community where I live. And the mountains? What’s not to love? I can’t imagine writing off an entire region because it’s perceived as liberal. That seems pretty short-sighted.
I can see writing off moving to an area because you don’t like the politics, but not writing it off as a place to visit.
I can see writing off moving to an area because you don’t like the politics, but not writing it off as a place to visit.
I thought the same thing. I visited San Francisco. I stepped on a needle. There were tents and feces everywhere. It was not a fun experience. Never again for me.
I thought the same thing. I visited San Francisco. I stepped on a needle. There were tents and feces everywhere. It was not a fun experience. Never again for me.
I lived in SF from 1995 to 2005. There were areas I avoided, but I still enjoyed the experience of living there overall.
I don't move to or from a place based on politics. I prefer to be in a liberal state, but things like jobs, housing and climate matter more.
I prefer to be in or near a good-sized metropolitan area, for access to airports, hospitals, theater, concerts and museums. I don't know of any "conservative" metropolitan areas, although there are certainly conservative neighborhoods and suburbs within most metros.
Much of the urban decay and problem people experience is based on politics. So while I would not move from a city based on it being politically liberal (if it was run correctly), most of these perpetually Democrat run cities go to hell.
For example, I use to like Seattle and for a while it was a great city, other than the wet and dreary weather.
It was clean, safe, and people seemed genuinely happy. However it has been exclusively (D) run for decades and liberal/leftist policies started to allow the following; drug use, homeless sleeping and setting up tents anywhere they please (including right in front of businesses), reduced law enforcement by enabling panhandlers, decriminalization of such things as pot in public, public urination/defecation, theft under a certain $ amount, defacing property, etc., etc., etc.
It was bound to lead to it's decline.
I was there (likely for the last time) about 2 years ago, and it has turned upside down from what it was. It is dirty, unsafe, and many people are depressed and despondent as to what has happened to their once nice city to live in.
But don't take my word for it alone. Watch this documentary done by the local TV news station if you want to see the dark underbelly;
I can say the same thing about places like San Francisco, LA, and a few other places I enjoyed, but wouldn't live there now even if someone paid me to.
As to your last point, cities with a mix of moderate to conservative governance do well, and certainly are not experiencing looting and riots.
Take cities like San Diego or Miami which meet much of your criteria.
San Diego has had about 8 Republican mayors in the last 13 or so, and Miami has had 5 Republican mayors out of the last 7.
But the Democrat mayors in those cities were not liberal kooks like you see in places like NYC, Portland and the places I mentioned above.
Most people still work for living and the jobs are in those liberal metro areas.
Those evil liberal metro areas generate 85% of US economic output.
I suppose people can move to the rural areas and try to get a job at a mega-farm, but most do what they have to do to provide for their families even if it means putting up with traffic and neighbors house 20 ft away from yours.
So profoundly true. Absolutely nobody dreams of moving to a conservative red metro area, such as Oklahoma City, Tulsa and Wichita.
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