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Old 09-20-2020, 07:41 PM
 
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"California, folks, is America fast forward.” Thus Governor Gavin Newsom, hoarsely, amid brown smoke at the North Complex Fire on Sept. 11. “What we’re experiencing right here is coming to a community all across the United States of America … unless we get our act together on climate change.”

I was with him all the way until he said the words “on climate change.”

As my Hoover Institution colleague Victor Davis Hanson put it last month, California is “the progressive model of the future: a once-innovative, rich state that is now a civilization in near ruins. The nation should watch us this election year and learn of its possible future.”

Let’s start with the fires. So far this year, they have torched more than five times as much land as the average of the previous 33 years, killing 25 people and forcing about 100,000 people from their homes. At one point, three of the largest fires in the state’s history were burning simultaneously in a ring around the San Francisco Bay Area. According to the California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection, or CAL FIRE, of the 10 largest fires since 1970, five broke out this year. Nine out of 10 have occurred since 2012.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/californi...120009131.html

 
Old 09-20-2020, 07:47 PM
 
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Default California Burnin' — a Warning Against One-Party Rule

https://www.yahoo.com/news/californi...120009131.html

The jist of this article, which is surprisingly good for Yahoo to post, is that one part rule has screwed California. I know, tell me something I don't know.
 
Old 09-20-2020, 07:53 PM
 
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California has been getting wildfires going back generations. Political party has nothing to do with it. It's the state's geography.
 
Old 09-20-2020, 07:55 PM
 
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California has been getting wildfires going back generations. Political party has nothing to do with it. It's the state's geography.
There is mis-management involved, but I suppose either party can do that.

Oregon - probably a case where the OP's theory applies.
 
Old 09-20-2020, 08:02 PM
 
Location: King County, WA
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Like it or not, the increase in wildfires is directly connected to climate change. The problem is that we have not yet adapted to the new equilibrium. Climate change is not going away for several generations at least. We will need to make major changes, both in our policies and in our thinking. If there is "mismanagement", it is in not being ready for the rate of change.
 
Old 09-20-2020, 08:03 PM
 
Location: Seacoast NH
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And so far, six people have been arrested for starting fires in California and Oregon. Climate change and arson are two different things.
 
Old 09-20-2020, 08:04 PM
 
Location: New York City
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No prescribed burns, no logging, this is what happens
 
Old 09-20-2020, 08:56 PM
 
Location: King County, WA
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And so far, six people have been arrested for starting fires in California and Oregon. Climate change and arson are two different things.
Climate change doesn't start the fires. It expands and prolongs the fires. We're always going to have fires, arson or not.
 
Old 09-20-2020, 08:57 PM
 
Location: King County, WA
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No prescribed burns, no logging, this is what happens
Yes, I agree that's the likely solution. Cut down more trees and do more off-season burns.
 
Old 09-20-2020, 09:03 PM
 
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And so far, six people have been arrested for starting fires in California and Oregon. Climate change and arson are two different things.
What IS it with Americans resisting the idea of "several contributing factors"?
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