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Old 09-21-2020, 11:30 AM
 
Location: Cape Cod
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Hmmm a story from the WAPO ? They do seem to be priming us for more restrictions but I wonder what will happen to all that if Biden should win? He claims to have all the answers to all of our problems. It only took him 45 years to get to this point but he is the miracle man, the vaccine for the TDS.

Vote for Joe and all will be well in the world .....
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Old 09-21-2020, 11:37 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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So, your cheap 25. cent bodega mask or homemade cutup underwear with elastic isn’t enough for an airborne virus? Say it ant so.....
It's all been for show anyway, especially when they say these types of mask are OK. It is a way for government to demonstrate their control over people, same with the limits on indoor customers in businesses. The small businessman is getting killed.
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Old 09-21-2020, 11:37 AM
 
Location: near bears but at least no snakes
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This is nothing new. They say that our cloth masks should consist of an outer layer that's resistant to moisture (from coughs, sneezes) with an inner filter layer and a third layer of absorbent cotton next to our faces. And they've been saying that the tiny particles can get sucked up into a ventilation system and end up in another room or drop right down onto your restaurant table.

That's why I won't eat indoors at a restaurant. Even though the fear mongers want you to think we'll be wearing masks forever, I bet things will really ease up once the vaccine is available. At that point, the most vulnerable will be better protected and the kiddies who think they won't get it can go out and party! (Well, they shouldn't but the results won't be so bad as they would have once the most vulnerable are protected by a vaccine and there are better treatments.)
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Old 09-21-2020, 11:38 AM
 
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exactly, so it begs the question, what exactly is the endgame when it comes to COvid?
We accept ___ deaths in exchange for _____ tax revenue. That's the end game.
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Old 09-21-2020, 11:40 AM
 
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Wear (or dont) what you think is best for you
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Old 09-21-2020, 11:40 AM
 
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We've needed N95s since the pandemic began. The Trump administration lied about that because they bungled the production of masks.
More than 3 dozen companies manufacture FDA approved versions of N95 surgical masks. How is it the Trump administration's fault for all those companies failing to take advantage of the supply/demand graph?
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To this day, they are hard to find even for our health care workers. The richest and largest manufacturing nation in history can't provide something as basic as adequate facial coverings.
Again, more than 3 dozen companies manufacture those masks. When did it become the job of the federal government to tell private companies what to manufacture? The profit motive isn't sufficient for that?
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Old 09-21-2020, 11:42 AM
 
Location: Just West of Wonder
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Just priming us for Nov 3. Please go to the polls . Don’t fall for the mail in vote scam.
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Old 09-21-2020, 11:44 AM
 
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As many of us have been saying cloth masks, bandanas do nothing. Even N95 masks are only good for an hour definitely no more than a few hours and people are wearing these for days. Not sanitizing them etc...

The masks are just pacifiers.
Incorrect.

N95 masks have tested efficacy for a standard workday 8 hours MINIMUM.

Let's also be specific. Triple layer cloth masks as well as surgical masks when used properly can filter out a minimum of 65% aerosols for the triple layer cloth and 75%+ for the surgical mask.

The goal is to reduce inoculum or initial viral load sufficiently to give the immune system time to mount a BALANCED response and not overreact with ARDS and/or Cytokine storm.

Wearing a mask DOES PROTECT you from the most severe COVID outcomes as a result.
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Old 09-21-2020, 11:46 AM
 
Location: Elysium
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More than 3 dozen companies manufacture FDA approved versions of N95 surgical masks. How is it the Trump administration's fault for all those companies failing to take advantage of the supply/demand graph?

Again, more than 3 dozen companies manufacture those masks. When did it become the job of the federal government to tell private companies what to manufacture? The profit motive isn't sufficient for that?

Since it has been roughly a century since the last time a public health crises called for such a response and no "in case of war against Mother Nature" stockpiles existed for release worldwide the constant "its his fault" ideals seem goofy to me.
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Old 09-21-2020, 11:47 AM
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We've needed N95s since the pandemic began. The Trump administration lied about that because they bungled the production of masks. To this day, they are hard to find even for our health care workers. The richest and largest manufacturing nation in history can't provide something as basic as adequate facial coverings. That is why they took down the science and are lying once again. The CDC has no credibility any more. It is nothing but a propaganda tool of Trump.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graph...top-table-main
The Obama administration bungled that. They allowed 95% of the production of protective equipment to move to China.
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