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Old 09-21-2020, 05:04 PM
 
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Is there even a 3rd Party? It comes down to voting for a group of Marxists who want to implement their ideology and take down the country or a party who love their country and want it to improve. Unless you have been brainwashed with fake history and a radical ideology the answer is very simple.
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Old 09-21-2020, 05:08 PM
 
Location: Denver CO
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Voting for someone you don't agree with/believe in is wasting your vote...even if the person you vote for wins.
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Old 09-21-2020, 05:27 PM
 
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Dont vote. Even the libertarian candidate is awful. It squandered a golden opportunity to advance an agenda of freedom against two god awful candidates. They should have been screaming against lockdowns and the BLM movement but endorsed both.
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Old 09-21-2020, 08:38 PM
 
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My point has always been -- I voted "third party" in 2012 and 2016 and might do so this year, also -- is that voting third party expresses the viewpoint that BOTH major candidates are terrible. If enough people did that, maybe the DNC and RNC would get the point that many voters do not want a POTUS who only really appeals to people who are either very strongly liberal or very strongly conservative.

And, also, if people vote at all, then, in my opinion, they have earned the right to complain about the winner if they don't like him or her.
If you are voting for a candidate who has absolutely zero chance of winning, you are wasting your vote, there is no other way to look at it.
As you say, if enough people voted third party it might wake up the two major parties. That possibility is something else that has zero chance of ever happening. For that to happen the third party candidate would need to make a contest of it, none has ever even come close enough for anyone to notice. You would have a difficult time finding anyone who could even name a third party candidate a month after the election. If you vote third party just so you can complain about the winner, you can do that without ever voting again.
You have the right to vote for anyone you please if you don't mind wasting your vote..
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Old 09-21-2020, 08:39 PM
 
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You've been brainwashed. Seek help.
I believe you have that exactly backwards, everything I said is true..
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Old 09-21-2020, 08:44 PM
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Location: Suburban Dallas
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Don't do third party now. Wait. The Democrat Party is imploding, and a lot of their moderates are leaving their party. I think, in a few years, if full conservatism isn't what some of these switchers had in mind, then I believe you'll see a new political party coming out with former Dems and some RINOs. It's looking more and more possible by the next mid-term, if not shortly thereafter.

So, for now, you'd best vote conservative or we lose this country forever. Never mind what you may think of President Trump. I've heard it all. If we keep our country and our sovereignty intact, then I firmly believe that there will eventually be a new place for those who disagree with me on some issues but is still able to keep peace without ostracizing others.
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Old 09-21-2020, 08:55 PM
 
Location: The High Desert
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"And when I ask for an explanation, I never really get one." Is she that stupid that she can't figure it out? Why go to the effort to vote for a 3rd party supposedly to make a "statement" and stroke your own ego. Nobody cares about your reasoning. They just think you are stupid. It is a charade.
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Old 09-21-2020, 09:00 PM
 
Location: Knoxville, TN
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A third party vote is ALWAYS a wasted vote. Feel free to throw your vote away. It has no more effect than not voting anyway, but don't pretend it influences a 2-party election to vote for something other than one of the 2 parties.

You are at a gathering at a friends house and there is a headcount vote between pizza and sandwiches for dinner. You vote for sushi. Guess who is not having sushi? Somebody else is going to decide if you are having pizza or sandwiches.
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Old 09-21-2020, 09:35 PM
 
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USA Today Opinion: I'm voting third party in the presidential election. Don't tell me I'm wasting my vote.


You're wasting your vote.
It’s only a waste if you live in a swing state. Otherwise it’s a statement.
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Old 09-21-2020, 10:03 PM
 
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Voting 3rd party not wasting your vote.

However, the spoiler effect is real - and 3rd party voters have to own the fact that they contributed to the status-quo as much as someone who did not vote 3rd party. If you vote for Jo Jorgensen in Wisconsin and are mad that Trump wins, it is your fault.
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