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Old 09-29-2020, 02:31 PM
 
Location: Somewhere between the Americas and Western Europe
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Originally Posted by phinneas j. whoopee View Post
You forgot "blame Republicans when it all turns to poop".

The coddling of illegal immigrants has evaporated the supply of entry level positions. I have a feeling we wouldnt be seeing throngs of young antifa adults rioting in cities if they could get construction jobs for $20 an hour.


"But Americans don't want to do those jobs!"


(Meanwhile in states without significant illegal immigrant populations, things still MAGICALLY get built!)
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Old 09-29-2020, 02:42 PM
 
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I hope you dont really believe that.
They steal identities to work, you dont think they do the same for benefits?

60% of medi-cal funded births in California are to illegals.

And illegals have completely absorbed the available affordable housing market in the southwest. So rents skyrocket and Americans are left homeless because they cant work 4 jobs but illegals are happy to live 4 adults in one apt.
No such thing as an undocumented immigrant either they are illegal aliens. They never pay enough into the system to cover their social costs but aside from that what part of they are here in violation of our immigration laws don't some people get? As you said, after that they either use fake or stolen ID's to work or work for cash evading income taxes. Those are both felonies! How can anyone defend felons?

They take American jobs by working for less and they are just as guilty of breaking the law as those who hire them. They overcrowd our schools, jails, healthcare facilities, roads and neighborhoods. They are putting added stress on our social and natural resources. What kind of a moral compass does one have to defend these lawbreaking invaders? No one has a right to a better life by breaking laws and taking from others what doesn't belong to them!
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Old 09-29-2020, 02:51 PM
 
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YO! They are already here........and most of the females are pregnant....
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Old 09-29-2020, 03:56 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley, CA
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Originally Posted by phinneas j. whoopee View Post
I hope you dont really believe that.
They steal identities to work, you dont think they do the same for benefits?

60% of medi-cal funded births in California are to illegals.

And illegals have completely absorbed the available affordable housing market in the southwest. So rents skyrocket and Americans are left homeless because they cant work 4 jobs but illegals are happy to live 4 adults in one apt.
Cites please?

And your 60% of Medi-Cal births to undocumented immigrants statement is bunk.

https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...ented-mothers/
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Old 09-29-2020, 04:18 PM
 
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"But Americans don't want to do those jobs!"


(Meanwhile in states without significant illegal immigrant populations, things still MAGICALLY get built!)
Which in one way is great. But the solution is not to bring in people that will do it for cheap.
In order to lets say, spread the wealth and make people a little more equal.

What would happen to lets say McDonald's or grocery stores if they could not find enough people to work for low wages.

Make a guess which one.

1. They would close and go out of business.

2. Or they would pay people what they had to in order to get enough employees.

Best for country is for lower wage jobs to go up. And to let in people that can contribute. Qualified enough to do jobs where there is a shortage and wages cant make up the difference. Like doctors and nurses.

I am all for helping other people. But makes no sense if you cant help those that we already have with housing, medical and food.
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Old 09-29-2020, 04:40 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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That is another reason I cant understand how Liberals think. They cant all be that simple minded.

We cant take care of the homeless and people without health care. And they want to let in millions more.

Even now we spend millions each year providing free health care for non citizens.
But we have citizens that cant afford it.
Sure we can. The resources are there. We have a major allocation problem.

If Trump had channeled the $2-1/2 trillion used for his "tax cuts" into health care, education, and housing, we could have made a tremendous dent in all three problems. If there was money to give away to 1%ers, there's plenty available to handle homelessness and health care.
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Old 09-29-2020, 04:45 PM
 
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Oh Boy! 52 Million MORE people flooding in and having their hands out for all the FREE things Biden promised them. Then, he will build cages after he is elected and send them all BACK because he is just using Latinos for the vote!
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Old 09-29-2020, 04:45 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Hmm, oh well. :]
Don't you care about the environment? That is a lot of people that will be a strain on our natural resources. All the desert states are already showing threats of water sources being deleted now, and California, Washington and Vermont are seeing wildfires every year, and this will get worse with more populations being squeezed. Where are we going to house all these people, and make sure they have food and ample medical care? We can barely provide for the citizens we already have. Like, I thought this is why we have mass abortion, to keep population under control?
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Old 09-29-2020, 04:56 PM
 
Location: 23.7 million to 162 million miles North of Venus
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Which in one way is great. But the solution is not to bring in people that will do it for cheap.
In order to lets say, spread the wealth and make people a little more equal.

What would happen to lets say McDonald's or grocery stores if they could not find enough people to work for low wages.

Make a guess which one.

1. They would close and go out of business.

2. Or they would pay people what they had to in order to get enough employees.

Best for country is for lower wage jobs to go up. And to let in people that can contribute. Qualified enough to do jobs where there is a shortage and wages cant make up the difference. Like doctors and nurses.

I am all for helping other people. But makes no sense if you cant help those that we already have with housing, medical and food.
"What would happen to lets say McDonald's or grocery stores if they could not find enough people to work for low wages."
Wouldn't happen. Those workers have always been the young, those in high school/college or those taking the job until something better comes along, the middle-age second jobbers, and the older near retired or retired who are trying to supplement their income. Those types of jobs are never career positions, unless they are in management. The turnover rate has always been high but there's always people willing to do the job when there's an opening.
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Old 09-29-2020, 05:07 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Currently we are paying $100B for benefits for illegals according to the linked article. I'm more upset with what is currently happening than what might possibly happen.

America has a very generous, legal immigration system. People that don't follow the law and rules shouldn't get an unfair advantage over the ones following the process. We need to punish bad behaviors and reward correct behaviors. Otherwise we get more bad behavior.
That's not the democrat way. Just look how they sit by and let looters and rioters destroy innocent and law abiding citizens homes and businesses as well as public property paid for by tax payers, but if a law abiding citizen decides to exercise their second amendment right, the same party is quick to throw them in jail.
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