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View Poll Results: It over! Which candidate won tonight's debate?
Trump 172 35.32%
Biden 198 40.66%
Neither 117 24.02%
Voters: 487. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-30-2020, 08:02 AM
 
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IRS comes after folks who either do not file, short funded, or most often "fudge" the itemizations.

Trump utilizes the corporate accounts to move his personal money around. Thus his measly $750.00 pay in to the IRS. He itemized his haircuts as business expenses .....

And we ( the public) do NOT know if the IRS had audited him during the seven year look back.
I heard on a podcast that the most-audited county in the U.S. is poverty-level mostly black country in Mississippi. Especially since Trump made sure resources were removed from the IRS, so they are now a handicapped agency, and his new lower tax rates were an enormous gift to the wealthy people and wealthy corporations..it's not that easy for the IRS to go after the rich crooks. Much easier to go after the nearly destitute "cheaters" whose tax irregularities usually turned out to be honest mistakes due to lack of knowledge.

Nor does the IRS have the legal resources to fight a wealthy individual for over a decade as Trump is doing with a truckload of lawyers. They simply cannot do it. Trump returns apparently had some of the most egregious tax dodges ever seen and most likely the largest amounts in terms of write-offs, etc.

Mark Cohen has repeated over and over that Trump used the common ploy of over-inflating the value of his assets when he needed a loan, and vastly under-estimating the value of properties and assets for tax purposes. Now that is not legal to my knowledge.

 
Old 09-30-2020, 08:03 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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I don't see how you can say Biden won the debate. Its like people saying Hilary won the debates but Trump still won the election. Trumped dominated and walked all over Biden, and biden seemed elderly and struggled to find words at some points. People want a strong president and Trump showed much more strength.
A couple of things that matter the most this election:

1) The COVID shutdowns. Biden promised more shutdowns. That will be an economic disaster and will ruin more lives.

2) The rioting, vandalism, burning, looting, and assaults committed by the activist left, causing billions of dollars in damages to Americans' businesses and therefore their livelihoods. Not one single law enforcement organization endorses Biden.

Biden has insurmountable flaws.
 
Old 09-30-2020, 08:03 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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Captain America has been anti-fascist for 80 years.


 
Old 09-30-2020, 08:05 AM
 
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And i am a Trump supporter. But Biden can “win” all the debates and i am still voting for Trump. Trump is rude, an ego maniac, pushes the truth with vigor, and has worked the system to the tune of billions. All things i do not like. But Biden is a corrupt globalist who has and will continue to sell this nation down the river to line his own pockets. His agenda is very bad for the USA. In conclusion, i vote the policies and not the person.
 
Old 09-30-2020, 08:05 AM
 
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You're an idiot if you think he called the military losers. 20 people were willing to put their name behind him not saying it. Some of them really despise President Trump. Vs. NY Times anonymous sources? Seriously? To believe that you have to have a serious case of TDS.

And Biden is on tape calling a crowd of soldiers, I think the term was, "sorry bastards." It may have been intended a joke, but Biden lied about saying it.
That's a recurring them with them... anonymous sources. Just because they print it doesn't mean it's true. There's no way to verify.
 
Old 09-30-2020, 08:05 AM
 
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A couple of things that matter the most this election:

1) The COVID shutdowns. Biden promised more shutdowns. That will be an economic disaster and will ruin more lives.

2) The rioting, vandalism, burning, looting, and assaults committed by the activist left, causing billions of dollars in damages to Americans' businesses and therefore their livelihoods. Not one single law enforcement organization endorses Biden.

Biden has insurmountable flaws.
Also taxes.

However, I don’t think anybody got that last night. I am very familiar with both platforms but all I got were crosswalks and curses.
 
Old 09-30-2020, 08:06 AM
 
Location: OC
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Both are corrupt. I don't want either as my president, Biden won because Wallace protected him. He's senile, it's very obvious.
 
Old 09-30-2020, 08:06 AM
 
Location: Rural Wisconsin
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The Proud Boys aren't white supremacists. They have non-white members. They have black members. They have Hispanic members with really dark skin.

It is stupid that the Democrats and their allies in the MSM keep labeling them as white supremacists.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...s-donald-trump
 
Old 09-30-2020, 08:06 AM
 
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Brutal, I do not see it changing things much, one side or the other.
 
Old 09-30-2020, 08:06 AM
 
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Biden said 1 out of 1000. He never said 1%, you said 1%. Therefore you have poor math skills. Don't worry you have plenty of company here.
Like I said, math is correct based off of what I read.
I was asking what did he actually say..
But, since blacks are so damn important, lets look at the rest of the country too, because all lives matters.

1 in 1,020 Black Americans has died (or 97.9 deaths per 100,000)

1 in 1,220 Indigenous Americans has died (or 81.9 deaths per 100,000)

1 in 1,400 Pacific Islander Americans has died (or 71.5 deaths per 100,000)

1 in 1,540 Latino Americans has died (or 64.7 deaths per 100,000)

1 in 2,150 White Americans has died (or 46.6 deaths per 100,000)

1 in 2,470 Asian Americans has died (or 40.4 deaths per 100,000)
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