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Old 09-27-2020, 12:11 PM
 
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If you want to see more low-wage jobs, the end of unions and more corporate tax cuts, vote Republican.

If you want to see US be a leader in green jobs, strong unions, affordable health care, repaired foreign relations and home-buying incentives for the middle-class, vote Biden.
If you want to see more illegals in our country sucking up our jobs, taxes and resources then vote Biden.Want to see the further depletion of our natural and social resources and overcrowded conditions in our schools, jails, healthcare facilities, neighborhoods and roads due to illegal immigration then vote Biden. Want illegals to get healthcare, DL, etc. then vote Biden. Affordable health care? lol, many Americans have seen their premiums go way up under the ACA. Want to see abortions performed during an advanced pregnancy then vote Biden.


Under Trump we have had the lowest unemployment and record high stocks but you suggest we vote for Biden based on the above? Under Trump we are finally getting a secure border. Under Biden the border won't be secured. I could go on but you get my drift.
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Old 09-27-2020, 12:11 PM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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It is a Republican engineered Dumbing Down of America. As long as enough Americans remain uneducated and clueless about how politics really work, carnival barkers and fools like George W. Bush and Donald J. Trump will keep getting elected President.
Democrats run the vast majority of the education system in America, so it's a DEMOCRAT engineered dumbing down of America.

There's hardly a Republican in sight of our prep schools, & universities.

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Old 09-27-2020, 12:12 PM
 
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How? I need to hear what steps are being taken in specific. And something else. Alot of people are very tribalistic outside of college and inside of college, whether they went to college or went straight to work after high school.

By the way, I'm still a jobber.



How what? If you say you are a jobber , do you have prices or do you sell based having the best creed ? You can get away from pure price competition by some salesmanship, consistency and even entertainment but it only goes so far. Also depends on the account. Owner operator businesses were cut throat in price. Small muni accounts wanted stuff that works. or was complete crap. Depended on who made the purchases. The use would buy premium while the accountant would buy the cheap stuff. Larger organizations were based on conveniences and certainly exposed to kick back schemes. National accounts was just about maxing out the PO.





If you don't understand the relationship between nepotism and monopoly then I may as well talk to a wall. There is a reason why organized crime is a family run business. There is a reason why public rentier scams all tend to pack it full of like minded people, and ultimately those with racial and cultural similarity. Its is about securing the rentier income , not satisfying the customer. As capital and labor compete the racist must go out of business. Corruption is a family run business.
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Old 09-27-2020, 12:21 PM
 
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Yes, I am assuming that. As I recall, the healthcare plan that McCain voted against would have cost me 50 or 60% of my income in monthly premiums. The guy I mentioned in my post pays $0 now, because of Obamacare subsidies, but apparently he's eager to take whatever crumbs the Republican healthcare schemes may toss his way and pay whatever it takes.

Many Americans had their premiums go through the roof before the ACA, too. It's helped more people than it's hurt as far as I know. For those paying sky high premiums now under the ACA, yeah, it stinks. But Donald Trump tells us that Medicare for All is socialism, so we can't have *that* now, can we?
What about Americans who aren't entitled to subsidies but have seen their premiums go through the roof under the ACA? You have no idea what Trump's proposal will look like. No healthcare premiums should hurt anyone or be unaffordable. Medicare for all is socialism for those who haven't contributed to that program by not working. Let's face it, you're just another lefty who just hates Trump.
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Old 09-27-2020, 12:25 PM
 
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How what? If you say you are a jobber , do you have prices or do you sell based having the best creed ? You can get away from pure price competition by some salesmanship, consistency and even entertainment but it only goes so far. Also depends on the account. Owner operator businesses were cut throat in price. Small muni accounts wanted stuff that works. or was complete crap. Depended on who made the purchases. The use would buy premium while the accountant would buy the cheap stuff. Larger organizations were based on conveniences and certainly exposed to kick back schemes. National accounts was just about maxing out the PO.





If you don't understand the relationship between nepotism and monopoly then I may as well talk to a wall. There is a reason why organized crime is a family run business. There is a reason why public rentier scams all tend to pack it full of like minded people, and ultimately those with racial and cultural similarity. Its is about securing the rentier income , not satisfying the customer. As capital and labor compete the racist must go out of business. Corruption is a family run business.
I thought a jobber was someone who went to a regular job and worked. I don't own any businesses. I just go to work, do my job, and go home.

I know about organized crime and crime families. One of the reasons I avoid people who have anything to do with the mafia or organized crime.

What does any of this have to do with the questions I asked? I need to know specific steps are being taken to create an economy where people can't afford to be bigots. I need to know in specifics.
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Old 09-27-2020, 12:34 PM
 
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Neither, I should note, does hate. But fear and hate is what DJT is packaging. Elections are often driven by emotional responses, rather than rational. Otherwise our history would be very different.
Fear and hate is what the left is packaging
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Old 09-27-2020, 12:35 PM
 
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Democrats run the vast majority of the education system in America, so it's a DEMOCRAT engineered dumbing down of America.

There's hardly a Republican in sight of our prep schools, & universities.

So very true
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Old 09-27-2020, 12:38 PM
 
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I know a very not wealthy guy, late 50s, type 2 diabetes and recently had detached retinas in both eyes requiring surgery for one and laser treatment for the other, all paid for (beyond the rather high $4k deductible) by the Affordable Care Act. But this guy voted for Trump in 2016 and plans to do so again this November. Talk about voting against your own self interest.

There's no reasoning with him. His rationale for voting Republican seems to shift over time, last week it was abortion. If the ACA is overturned by the Supreme Court and replaced by some sort of skimpy Trumped up insurance plans, this guy is going to suffer.
Not all people vote for their own personal gain, but what they feel is right for the country and not everyone is helped by the aca.
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Old 09-27-2020, 12:39 PM
 
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There are different kinds of Republicans. I agree w/ above poster. Too bad T took over all of them and turned it so ugly.
No, the career politicians did that.
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Old 09-27-2020, 12:44 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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I know what you're trying to pull and it won't work. The only thing that Trump did was maintain the trend that was in the works since 2012, when Trump wasn't in office. Unemployment rates started dropping in 2012.

Which President did Blacks see their unemployment rates go up doing Fall 2018-Winter 2018/2019? The current one. During that time, every other group saw their unemployment rates maintain the decline in unemployment rates EXCEPT Blacks. I spoke about this on another thread in 2019.

What did Trump do other than maintain the trend? Explain. I'm not seeing anything Trump did. At least not for us white collar types.
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I know you won't accept it, but it was worth pointing it out in this thread anyway.

Look, 90-95% of Americans vote along party lines. Their votes are locked in and we know they will never change. Only 5-10% of voters actually decide the outcome of elections.


Save the keyboard strokes...liberals are incapable of understanding fundamental economic concepts.

https://econjwatch.org/articles/econ...y-of-americans
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