If Liberals Are So Stupid, How Come Our Highest-Tech Areas Are In The Most Liberal Areas? (lawyers, Clinton)

[BigCityDreamer]

Originally Posted by NigerianNightmare

Also what about D.C with all of its diverse counties, and wealthy folk?

You're not going to tell me there aren't stark demographic differences in the DC area. I think you know better than that.

[AnesthesiaMD]

Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber

Liberal metro areas generate 85% of US economic output. NYC metro alone generates as much as Canada.

Dallas and Houston lean liberal.

"Liberal metro areas" are full of very rich people and very poor people.

I wonder, if you separated out all the very poor people, who don't "generate 85% of US economic output", wouldn't the percentage of conservatives go way up?

[ohio_peasant]

Originally Posted by Phil75230

The less you scorn, condemn, or ridicule unconventional ideas and people.
The more free people are to be their true selves and think for themselves.
The more creative they get.
The more ideas they come up with.
Which leads to new ideas about science and technology, plus new products and the businesses and services that offer them.

Originally Posted by xray731

I think the heat is getting to you. When you have a system that works - you are foolish to change it - improve upon it without destroying it but liberals want to dissolve things and have no idea what they are going to use to replace it.

The essential tension between liberal and conservative isn't about abortion, taxes or guns, but about traditions and traditional institutions. Conservatives are skeptical of attempts to make revision, warning of disaster if things are poorly thought through. Liberals are skeptical of the status quo, warning that no human construction is perfect, and to venerate something merely because it is established, means stagnation and decline.

But over the the past two decades, these identifications have reversed. The post-WW2 world, the Pax Americana of international corporations rewarding capital and technical skills, is now 75 years old. It is a powerful and venerable institution. To continue it, would be "conservative" - except that now that position is liberal. To reform it, would be "liberal" - except that now, to do so, is conservative.

[Phil75230]

Originally Posted by Mr. Joshua

Liberalism isn't based on intelligence, it's based on feelings.

And you think Conservatism (the current predominate iteration of it, at least) is based mostly in logic.

* Kneejerk distaste at minorities or other historically disparaged people (of whatever stripe)
* Thinking that Rep "tax cuts" will benefit the middle class (they don't, otherwise MC real incomes would not be declining).
*Can't see that Democrats reduce deficits while Republicans add to them https://datalab.usaspending.gov/amer...eficit/trends/
* Thinking that any kind of government overreach is Communism - when they don't have a clue as to what actual communism is.
* Unwillingness to question traditional national mythos (work hard and you'll get ahead, not nearly as true as it used to be; America is a Christian nation when actually most founding fathers were deists;
* Off-kilter definitions of leadership (it is not a bossy, bull-in-the-porcelain-shop attitude; nor is it cocky cutdowns and "putting people in their place". That's what organized crime bosses and dictators do).
* Crude understandings of free will and personal responsibility. Our wills are not as free as we love to think, and even then, some wills are more free than others due to brain structure and imprinted life experiences.

And that's before we get to his outright bigotries and cruelties, even before he announced his run for the White House. Not to mention all his acts and comments since then. That kind of behavior, if left unchallenged, tends to get out of control and damage the social fabric and trust between society's members.

[Pilot1]

The Founding principles of America set up the Tech giants for their incredible success. Now they want to turn us Marxist.

[Woody01]

Originally Posted by Phil75230

I do notice one thing about liberal areas. They are less prone to squash out-of-the-box thinking (not just in money-making matters). They are also ahead of the pack when it comes to creating new ideas that change society, culture, etc. in ways that are more just for all. I noticed that culturally conservative areas tend to be very worshipful of conventional and traditional ways of thinking; scorning new ideas as weird, stupid, and sometimes even evil. That squashes creativity by either muzzling people with new unorthodox ideas or making them feel ashamed of themselves for being so "weird" or "stupid" or "evil".

The less you scorn, condemn, or ridicule unconventional ideas and people.
The more free people are to be their true selves and think for themselves.
The more creative they get.
The more ideas they come up with.
Which leads to new ideas about science and technology, plus new products and the businesses and services that offer them.

And to you, being a liberal, this is all fine. What you don't see is that it leads to the sickness found in today's modern liberal s**tholes. It sure sounds good when you say it like you do, but a smarter person would see where it will lead.

[Phil75230]

Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber

Liberal metro areas generate 85% of US economic output. NYC metro alone generates as much as Canada.

Dallas and Houston lean liberal.

Yep, The big tech cities have grown way faster than the national rate from 2012-2018. including San Francisco and San Jose. Others are Seattle and Raleigh. Portland, and Austin also do well. The only other cities doing well lacking name-brand recognition for high tech are Sacramento, Riverside, and San Antonio.

Even then, those last three may be more tech-based than name-brand recognition would have it.

[Woody01]

Originally Posted by Phil75230

And you think Conservatism (the current predominate iteration of it, at least) is based mostly in logic.

* Kneejerk distaste at minorities or other historically disparaged people (of whatever stripe)
* Thinking that Rep "tax cuts" will benefit the middle class (they don't, otherwise MC real incomes would not be declining).
*Can't see that Democrats reduce deficits while Republicans add to them https://datalab.usaspending.gov/amer...eficit/trends/
* Thinking that any kind of government overreach is Communism - when they don't have a clue as to what actual communism is.
* Unwillingness to question traditional national mythos (work hard and you'll get ahead, not nearly as true as it used to be; America is a Christian nation when actually most founding fathers were deists;
* Off-kilter definitions of leadership (it is not a bossy, bull-in-the-porcelain-shop attitude; nor is it cocky cutdowns and "putting people in their place". That's what organized crime bosses and dictators do).
* Crude understandings of free will and personal responsibility. Our wills are not as free as we love to think, and even then, some wills are more free than others due to brain structure and imprinted life experiences.

And that's before we get to his outright bigotries and cruelties, even before he announced his run for the White House. Not to mention all his acts and comments since then. That kind of behavior, if left unchallenged, tends to get out of control and damage the social fabric and trust between society's members.

Nice opinions, dude, but that's all they are...your opinions. You're so danged biased that even your opinions are pretty worthless......

Try again...

[Phil75230]

Originally Posted by Woody01

Nice opinions, dude, but that's all they are...your opinions. You're so danged biased that even your opinions are pretty worthless......

Try again...

Claiming an opinion is worthless and biased is one thing. Proving it is quite another. If I am wrong, do so via point by point refutation. Not, please, with rhetoric.

[StillwaterTownie]

Originally Posted by Rocko20

Liberals aren't stupid, they're just dumb.

And the cities in the OP have a high rate of homelessness.

No wonder, since it doesn't get very cold there during the winter time.