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Old 09-27-2020, 03:50 PM
 
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Funny I was just thinking today, I wonder if Biden will even be able to stand for 90 minutes, or if he'll need a chair.

Lets just give both of them walkers for the debate. Attach tennis balls to the bottom legs so they slide easier...
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Old 09-27-2020, 04:39 PM
 
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Well I didn’t mention Biden or Harris and I wasn’t quoting you, but I’ll give it a shot:

—put aside any racial connotations for a moment. Do you know who Kaia Gerber is? Would you say she has “good genes”? Do you think that her looks might have something to do with the way her parents look? How about the Manning father and sons? Do you think athletic ability might be passed down genetically? Is this not common sense?

At the same time, genetics can be a crap shoot...my son is dyslexic but neither my husband nor I are...my husband’s brother is...and his children are not. These things skip around in families. However, it was not long ago that successful families sought for their children to “marry well”, and who someone’s family was, was of paramount importance. I think you are making mountains out of molehills.

—I am voting for Trump because I support, still, his core message:
secured borders
America first
jobs, economy, trade balance
anti-war
limited (not no and not unlimited) abortion
energy independence
prescription drug reform

I support Trump because he is anti-socialist. He rightly calls out career politicians. He has exposed the one party system that is D.C. Furthermore, the Trump administration is slowly but surely challenging human trafficking, including that of children. Trump has denounced the looting, rioting, and violence and has made it clear he supports police and law and order. He speaks out against cancel culture.

I support Trump because I agree with this:

“In the left’s backward view, they do not see America as the most free, just and exceptional nation on Earth. Instead, they see a wicked nation that must be punished for its sins. Our opponents say that redemption for you can only come from giving power to them. This is a tired anthem spoken by every repressive movement throughout history, but in this country, we don’t look to career politicians for salvation. In America, we do not turn to government to restore ourselves. We put our faith in almighty God.”

And this:

“Our country wasn’t built by cancel culture, speech codes, and crushing conformity. We are not a nation of timid spirits. We are a nation of fierce, proud, and independent American patriots. We are a nation of pilgrims, pioneers, adventurers, explorers, and trailblazers who refuse to be tied down, held back, or in any way reigned in. Americans have steel in their spines, grit in their souls, and fire in their hearts. There is no one like us on Earth. I want every child in America to know that you are part of the most exciting and incredible adventure in human history. No matter where your family comes from, no matter your background in America, anyone can rise with hard work, devotion, and drive. You can reach any goal and achieve every ambition.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nyt...l%3f0p19G=6214
It's going to be a tall order for me not to think about race. As a Black American, I belong to a group of people who are among the most looked down on in this country. While many strides have been made, there is still a long way to go. And as someone who has to consider what others might think about me, and where I stand relative to non-Blacks in America, it's going to be hard not to think about race. This is why I whenever I hear about cancel culture and America being "punished for its sins", I shrug my shoulders and I don't care. I'm like "whatever, I have other stuff to worry about". I voted against Trump because he wanted to see Stop and Frisk expanded nationwide. As a Black man, I have a higher chance of being subjected to this more than anyone else. And no, I don't live in a high crime area. I've also learned that no matter who is President, I can easily be laid off from a job, I can even be faced with job market discrimination. I'm working now, and I'm glad for the work. However, I understand anything can happen no matter who is President. As I've gotten older, I've become more individualistic and have developed a "me first" mentality when it comes to voting. I would think this way if I moved to any other country.
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Old 09-27-2020, 04:46 PM
 
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It's going to be a tall order for me not to think about race. As a Black American, I belong to a group of people who are among the most looked down on in this country. While many strides have been made, there is still a long way to go. And as someone who has to consider what others might think about me, and where I stand relative to non-Blacks in America, it's going to be hard not to think about race. This is why I whenever I hear about cancel culture and America being "punished for its sins", I shrug my shoulders and I don't care. I'm like "whatever, I have other stuff to worry about". I voted against Trump because he wanted to see Stop and Frisk expanded nationwide. As a Black man, I have a higher chance of being subjected to this more than anyone else. And no, I don't live in a high crime area. I've also learned that no matter who is President, I can easily be laid off from a job, I can even be faced with job market discrimination. I'm working now, and I'm glad for the work. However, I understand anything can happen no matter who is President. As I've gotten older, I've become more individualistic and have developed a "me first" mentality when it comes to voting. I would think this way if I moved to any other country.
If your mind is already made up, and if you look through the lens of race first and foremost, why are you pestering other posters as to why you should vote for Trump? You aren’t going to vote for Trump and there is nothing anyone could say to change your mind....so maybe stop “challenging” posters and criticizing them for not being able to answer your questions.

I will say this: the Democrat party has failed black people in this country. Almost every Democrat run city from Detroit to Baltimore to Minneapolis to Seattle to Chicago has either been in decline for decades or is facing destruction.

If you vote for what you’ve always voted for, you will get what you’ve always gotten.
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Old 09-27-2020, 04:49 PM
 
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If your mind is already made up, and if you look through the lens of race first and foremost, why are you pestering other posters as to why you should vote for Trump? There is nothing anyone could say to change your mind.

I will say this: the Democrat party has failed black people in this country. Almost every Democrat run city from Detroit to Baltimore to Minneapolis to Seattle to Chicago has either been in decline for decades or is facing destruction.

If you vote for what you’ve always voted for, you will get what you’ve always gotten.
I have voted Republican before, and it didn't help me. I learned that sometimes, you have to help yourself and not depend on any politician. All you're owed is to make sure no one takes your rights away. And something else. I'm a middle class, White collar professional. I have no wife, no kids, I live by myself. I'm going to get fleeced when it comes to taxes no matter what.

You can say what you will about Democrats, but here is something you're not seeing. It doesn't matter if a city is Democratic ran or Republican ran. Blacks are often the poorest group in every city, no matter what. Both parties do Blacks no good.
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Old 09-27-2020, 05:28 PM
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Location: MA/NH
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I was asking a question and it kept getting sidestepped. After some of the things Trump has said, including this statement about "good genes", I don't see myself as having any good reason to vote for Trump. I notice whenever I ask "why should I vote for someone like that", the only thing that gets done is to bring up how bad Joe Biden is. I'm not talking about Biden. And I'm not talking about BLM. I'm speaking specifically about Trump and Trump alone. I'm speaking about what he said, and that alone.
At the end of the day, don't go by what anyone SAYS, go by their actions and what good (if any) that they have done for YOU.

Trump is a terribly imperfect person, but I admire his lack of using speechwriters. Unlike Obama who spoke like a president out of a Hollywood movie... and came across as totally fake to me. And because he doesn't use speechwriters, he does put his foot in his mouth frequently.

Otherwise, this opinion piece might be helpful to you as you research who you might cast your vote for. My earlier responses were more of picking the lesser of two evils. IMO the DNC is a hot mess and the Biden-Harris ticket is rubbish. They had almost four years to come up with a better ticket to run against Trump, and I'm shocked at what they ended up with, especially since the Democratic field was so huge when the Democratic debates started.

https://www.delgazette.com/opinion/8...unities-thrive

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In addition, President Trump’s “Opportunity Zones” initiative is spurring even more economic growth in underdeveloped communities around the country. Through targeted tax incentives, the initiative is projected to generate approximately $100 billion of new private investment in communities that need it most.

That focus on expanding economic opportunity for minorities has been a major priority for the Trump administration. That’s why the president was so committed to reforming the criminal justice system. By eliminating the sentencing disparities caused by the horrendous Clinton-era crime bill, which disproportionately affected African Americans, President Trump is giving thousands of unfairly sentenced black inmates a second chance at the American Dream.

The FIRST STEP Act also included significant reforms to address recidivism, such as helping prisons improve their rehabilitation programs and allowing non-violent inmates to earn early-release credits for good behavior more easily. Thanks to this legislation, non-violent inmates will now be equipped with the professional and social skills they need to become productive members of society following their release.

President Trump also understands that the foundation of economic success is a quality education. That’s why he signed a $360 million grant to support Historically Black Colleges and Universities last year — by far the most that any president has ever appropriated for HBCUs. Even America’s first black president, Barack Obama, never allocated that much money to HBCUs.I
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Old 09-27-2020, 05:35 PM
 
Location: Old Dominion
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This is really cringe. I mean he could’ve said you have good genes, and left it at that, but he rambled on about it. It sounds like he is was trying to “really” get the point across.
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Old 09-27-2020, 08:42 PM
 
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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He was talking about the people of Minnesota which come in all colors not just the people in the audience .

But I wonder how Detroit's gene pool has changed in the past 30 years. What about California's?
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Old 09-27-2020, 08:46 PM
 
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Funny I was just thinking today, I wonder if Biden will even be able to stand for 90 minutes, or if he'll need a chair.
Ellise snarky, empty replies are why I put her on my Ignore List. I encourage others to do the same.
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Old 09-27-2020, 08:47 PM
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He was talking about the people of Minnesota which come in all colors not just the people in the audience .

But I wonder how Detroit's gene pool has changed in the past 30 years. What about California's?
What are you talking about?

If you're saying he's completely randomly complementing Minnesota's gene pool, for absolutely no reason whatsoever and they come in all colors (which they don't, statistically, Minnesota is 85% white, and his audience at the time was virtually 100% white), why are you then asking about Detroit's and California's gene pool changing?

If you're not talking about the white race numbers, what ARE you talking about?
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Old 09-27-2020, 08:56 PM
 
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If you look at California's top 5 percent students, about 80 percent of them are NOT White.
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