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Old 09-27-2020, 05:51 PM
 
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The New York Times article is disconcerting in a multitude of ways.

There are suspicious consulting fees paid to family where there’s contradicting information that there were no consulting services even provided (possible payroll tax avoidance, gift tax avoidance, and transferring of tax liability). There are conservation deductions that are suspect (in value). There are deductions of “investment property expenses” that may be used personally.

The biggest issue appears to be the audit issue about whether he abandoned his partnership interest in the casinos without receiving anything of value.

There’s also critiques of businesses that are truly losing money hand over fist (not just through depreciation), recourse debt concerns, and the change in revenues in certain businesses since taking office.

Oh, and deduction of legal fees for criminal defense which is NOT a valid business expense. Somewhat speculative, since it’s hard to tell, but at least some of the cited legal expenses seem to be tied to firms that were hired just for criminal cases.

And that's just the stuff we know from the Times article.
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Old 09-27-2020, 05:51 PM
 
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Unfotunately for the desperate liberal fanatics, 17 years of meticulous IRS audits have turned up nothing. Apparently Trump obeyed every law the IRS and Congress have imposed.

Think how heartbroken the TDS Liberals must be. How many years have they been screaming Trump is hiding something awful... and when somebody finally steals his tax returns and publishes them, they find NOTHING???
I always assumed that he didn’t do anything overtly illegal, or the IRS would have caught it. But what an embarrassment, that the mighty businessman actually lost millions of dollars. And the man of the people is actually a parasite that freeloads off the American public.
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Old 09-27-2020, 05:51 PM
 
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I personally find the Biden family taking billions from foreign governments while setting policy INFINITELY more disturbing.
I would too if any of that actually happened and wasn't just in the fevered imaginations of Trumpers.
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Old 09-27-2020, 05:52 PM
 
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How DARE people like Trump obey the law and do everything the IRS tells them to? The liberal fanatics find that OUTRAGEOUS!!!
Trump didn't obey the law....he most definitely did what the IRS -- by laws created by rich politicians --- allowed him to do it.

And as he has been challenged to make the rich pay a share -- not even their share -- just some tax...you are going to say it is the liberals that are 'fanatical
.

Fanatical is some who is a fan of something crazy --continuing to allow Trump and his kind to get away with no taxes is ridiculous.

It isn't illegal what he did.....it is wrong for him to not fight for a more fair and equitable tax system.
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Old 09-27-2020, 05:52 PM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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Originally Posted by jojajn View Post
Taxes are just for middle class?


Hey, y'all are the ones who want high taxes.


So shut up and pay them already.


But don't get all misty eyed hissy fits over those of us who don't think they should pay high taxes are smart enough to figure out how not to.


And BTW..... just a little clue for you:

INCOME is taxed differently from WEALTH..

When you figure out the difference between the two, maybe that vein in your temple will stop throbbing.
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Old 09-27-2020, 05:52 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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Originally Posted by Sparky212 View Post
The New York Times article is disconcerting in a multitude of ways.

There are suspicious consulting fees paid to family where there’s contradicting information that there were no consulting services even provided (possible payroll tax avoidance, gift tax avoidance, and transferring of tax liability). There are conservation deductions that are suspect (in value). There are deductions of “investment property expenses” that may be used personally.

The biggest issue appears to be the audit issue about whether he abandoned his partnership interest in the casinos without receiving anything of value.

There’s also critiques of businesses that are truly losing money hand over fist (not just through depreciation), recourse debt concerns, and the change in revenues in certain businesses since taking office.

Oh, and deduction of legal fees for criminal defense which is NOT a valid business expense. Somewhat speculative, since it’s hard to tell, but at least some of the cited legal expenses seem to be tied to firms that were hired just for criminal cases.

And that's just the stuff we know from the Times article.

It's fake posted by fake news.
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Old 09-27-2020, 05:53 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Originally Posted by 2x3x29x41 View Post
LOL

There's always a tweet.

Here's Trump - the guy who paid a total of $750 (no 'k' - just $750!] over two years (2016 and 2017) - attacking President Obama for paying 'only' 20.5% [ie, $161+k] on his $790k salary.
That tweet didn't age well.
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Old 09-27-2020, 05:54 PM
 
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I always assumed that he didn’t do anything overtly illegal, or the IRS would have caught it. But what an embarrassment, that the mighty businessman actually lost millions of dollars. And the man of the people is actually a parasite that freeloads off the American public.
AND it highlights the criticism that he supports the wealthy dodging their share of taxes.
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Old 09-27-2020, 05:54 PM
 
Location: Free State of Florida, Support our police
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Trump has an army of lawyers and accountants that look for every possible advantage of the tax laws. I honestly do not see what the big deal is. If I was a billionaire I would be doing the same thing. The bottom line is this is a smear piece on Trump. This will not affect anything!
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Old 09-27-2020, 05:54 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Oh no, they've got him now......again.

You guys never learn.
How much take home pay would you have if you only paid $750 in income taxes per year? Would you like that, or would you rather pay more to cover what Donald doesn't pay?
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