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Estimates indicate anywhere from 1 to 6 million deaths with no restrictions, that’s just the deaths. Will hospitals be able to handle a few hundred thousand infections and hospitalizations. What do restaurants and shopping malls look like with elevated rates.
Estimates based on what? A doomsday scenario for a virus that many catch and never have any symptoms is hardly believeable.
How many Covid deaths are you willing to risk by ending the lockdowns, and reopening the economy?
If the answer is "zero", then you have set an impossible standard. To know that there is zero risk requires omniscience that extends infinitely out into the future. Human beings do not have omniscience, and thus, by your standard, you will never support reopening the economy. Are you willing to admit this?
If the answer is something higher than zero, then you agree with me. You are willing to risk Covid deaths by reopening the economy. How many deaths would you consider to be acceptable losses? What would the survival rate have to be?
Estimates indicate anywhere from 1 to 6 million deaths with no restrictions, that’s just the deaths. Will hospitals be able to handle a few hundred thousand infections and hospitalizations. What do restaurants and shopping malls look like with elevated rates.
And your numbers are supposed to elicit face-grabbing horror, vomiting, and shocked realization of how wrong and facile one's desires may have been, to open everything up? Really?
And OK, what if hospitals are unable to handle the deluge of patients? Never mind the refrigerated trucks idling outside, waiting to accept fresh loads of corpses. Let's suppose that the drivers themselves die. There's no one to drive the trucks. Or to man the reception-desk in the hospital. Or to police the streets. Or to protest. And?
As to your point about shopping malls and restaurants, I beseech you to examine them right now. Of what do they remind you? I'll tell you, of what they remind me: the closing scene of the apocalyptic film (the book is similar), "On the Beach".
We already have an unmitigated catastrophe. We are already there.
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Why did Republicans close down things?
Are they lefties?
(hint: the answer is yes)
This isn't a political argument. Republicans "closed down things", just as Democrats did, because we live in a culture that's dominated by Cover Your Ass philosophy. Everything - from how children are educated, to how drugs are labeled, to traffic signs to workplace safety to the myriad forms that we fill out - are based on CYA. And that transcends party or politics.
Your PREMISE is incorrect: you assume that shut-downs save lives.
From what we've seen around the world (Sweden), they don't, particularly when you consider increased deaths from job losses, failure to treat non-emergency health problems, drug use, suicide, etc.
This isn't a political argument. Republicans "closed down things", just as Democrats did, because we live in a culture that's dominated by Cover Your Ass philosophy. Everything - from how children are educated, to how drugs are labeled, to traffic signs to workplace safety to the myriad forms that we fill out - are based on CYA. And that transcends party or politics.
It is a political argument.
Republicans/Trumpers are absolutely insane with this eyes-wide-closed approach to what they've done during Covid.
It wasn't the first time and it won't be the last time but they went full Marxist in shutting things down from Ohio to Florida to Georgia (with GOP guvs).
You expect that from Team Blue because they are openly Marxist. They mean what they say and say what they mean.
And Team Red has the audacity to call them weak and cowardly? At least Blue is open about their hatred of individual freedom and liberty. Red sickens me with their spin.
Your PREMISE is incorrect: you assume that shut-downs save lives.
From what we've seen around the world (Sweden), they don't, particularly when you consider increased deaths from job losses, failure to treat non-emergency health problems, drug use, suicide, etc.
Sweden had humongous number of deaths per capita compared to its peers: Norway, Denmark, Finland. Comparing Sweden to the US is pure nonsense. US would have a multifold worse disaster than the current one if taking Sweden's approach.
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