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Old 10-01-2020, 12:29 AM
 
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You seem to not realize that it is common to name a disease after where it came from/location of the first known case or after the population of an area of the first known case.

The following are diseases that were named after population or place...

West Nile Virus
Guinea Worm
Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever
Lyme Disease
Ross River Fever
Omsk Hemorrhagic Fever
Ebola Hemorrhagic Fever
Middle East Respiratory Syndrome (MERS) (camel flu)
Marburg Virus Disease
Norovirus
Zika Fever
Japanese Encephalitis
German Measles
Spanish Flu
Lassa Fever
Legionnaire’s Disease
Valley Fever

I'm sure you're outraged enough to not use the names of these diseases, right? Why are you not starting threads about these diseases, too?

Complete failure on your part. Have you petitioned to rename the Spanish Flu to the American Flu? I didn't think so.
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Old 10-01-2020, 12:39 AM
 
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Complete failure on your part. Have you petitioned to rename the Spanish Flu to the American Flu? I didn't think so.
The best evidence is the Spanish Flu was really the Chinese flu. That Kansas theory of origin has about the same basis as a Spanish origin, just being early or first discovering and reporting a flu doesn't make you the origin of it. The historic record most supports there was a flu illness in China and Chinese laborers many documented as being ill were transported across Canada to fill labor shortages at the Western front and the virus spread there and was brought back to the US.
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Old 10-01-2020, 12:44 AM
 
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The best evidence is the Spanish Flu was really the Chinese flu. That Kansas theory of origin has about the same basis as a Spanish origin, just being early or first discovering and reporting a flu doesn't make you the origin of it. The historic record most supports there was a flu illness in China and Chinese laborers many documented as being ill were transported across Canada to fill labor shortages at the Western front and the virus spread there and was brought back to the US.
The first known case was in March, 1918 in Kansas. Everything else is theory. Based on the criteria, it would be called the American flu.

That being said, the current virus already has a name that is widely used: COVID-19
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Old 10-01-2020, 12:49 AM
 
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Anti-Asian Bias spikes due to use of "China Virus"
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Use of 'China virus' led to spike in anti-Asian bias: study

The use of the phrase "China virus" by top administration officials, including President Trump, has coincided with a surge in discrimination against Asian-Americans, according to a new study.
"Coincided with" -- OK. "Due to... led to" -- no, correlation does not equal causation. It seems much more likely that the virus itself, its known origin in Asia, and fears about it coming to America led to more Americans thinking of Asians as foreign, not the phrase used by the President.
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Old 10-01-2020, 12:53 AM
 
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So it's Trump and not racist black people terrorizing all these Asians? Okay sure.
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Old 10-01-2020, 12:55 AM
 
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The first known case was in March, 1918 in Kansas. Everything else is theory. Based on the criteria, it would be called the American flu.

That being said, the current virus already has a name that is widely used: COVID-19
It's just theory that it originated in Kansas too just because it was discovered. But records show there was a similar illness in China before that in November 1917. https://www.history.com/news/china-e...20restrictions.

Call the current virus COVID-19 or anything you want but everyone knows it came from china and china intentionally allowed it to spread to the US.
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Old 10-01-2020, 01:04 AM
 
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It's just theory that it originated in Kansas too just because it was discovered.
Call the current virus COVID-19 or anything you want...
But it's not theory that the first known case was in Kansas and as a result the appropriate name would be American virus based on the criteria.

So we agree to call it COVID-19 since that's what it's already been named and is widely referred to as.
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Old 10-01-2020, 01:13 AM
 
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But it's not theory that the first known case was in Kansas and as a result the appropriate name would be American virus based on the criteria.

So we agree to call it COVID-19 since that's what it's already been named and is widely referred to as.
But it is not known then or even now where the Spanish flu originated. There were outbreaks in other places before Kansas along the route of the Chinese laborers to Europe only the records were recently discovered by the researcher. Evidence now suggests the first cases were in China. But we knew the current virus originated in Wuhan China before COVID-19 was finally selected as the name to be politically correct. It was first referred to as the Wuhan virus. That's the difference.
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Old 10-01-2020, 01:56 AM
 
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But it is not known then or even now where the Spanish flu originated. There were outbreaks in other places before Kansas along the route of the Chinese laborers to Europe only the records were recently discovered by the researcher. Evidence now suggests the first cases were in China. But we knew the current virus originated in Wuhan China before COVID-19 was finally selected as the name to be politically correct. It was first referred to as the Wuhan virus. That's the difference.
Suggestions, theory, etc. We have to go by the facts. The fact is that the first confirmed case was in Kansas and that is what the criteria was. So it would be called the American virus.

COVID-19 was the widely accepted name internationally before US Politicians started using any other term in press conferences for political reasons.

If Asian Americans are being targeted as a result of this virus, that's stupid and unfortunate. They had nothing to do with it.
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Old 10-01-2020, 01:59 AM
 
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Suggestions, theory, etc. We have to go by the facts. The fact is that the first confirmed case was in Kansas and that is what the criteria was. So it would be called the American virus.

COVID-19 was the widely accepted name internationally before US Politicians started using any other term in press conferences for political reasons.
That is not a fact. Only in the US was it first confirmed in Kansas, but a similar illness is now known to previously be known by medical records to been in China, among the Chinese labors transported etc. Read the link I posted.
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