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Old 10-09-2020, 02:26 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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True, but Pence doesnt have pinkeye.

White House doctors have said he has a burst blood vessel.
Thanks for the update.

Still, if he had had it it would not be diagnostic of COVID-19.

 
Old 10-09-2020, 02:29 PM
 
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This wouldn't be the first time Trump left the liberal media twisting in the wind of their own false reporting.

The fact is no one would be questioning whether or not Trump tested prior to the debate if they hadn't mistated the process and turned it into Trump showed up too late to be tested. There is literally at this point nothing to point to Trump having not tested prior to the debate. Falsely reporting that he had would likely involve a number of people including the doctor that was traveling with him. I think that is unlikely.

People who want to believe the press repeating false information are certainly free to do so.
Blondy ... He brings it on himself. When someone pulls the crap Trump does on a regular basis it's sometimes hard to tell what is an Onion story and what is not. No doubt it's wise to be skeptical of politicians in general but Trump still has the capacity to surprise.

As for Trump's doctor(s) ... I'm not going to take the time to dig up the transcripts ... but to my recall Dr. Conley when backed into a corner indicated Trump had not been on oxygen. When he 'clarified' the next day he said the reports the White House was attempting to hide the oxygen use were not "necessarily" true. Well they weren't "necessarily" false either! That "necessarily" really made me chuckle. Classic double-speak.

"The fact is no one would be questioning whether or not Trump tested prior to the debate" if Trump and those around him weren't such repeated liars. When it comes to covid, Trump lost a lot of credibility when he got on that helicopter to go visit the elderly donors in New Jersey after the White House had been informed that Hope Hicks had covid. And that's straight from Mark Meadows.

Anybody who would do that potentially is capable of a lot.
 
Old 10-09-2020, 03:14 PM
 
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Covid and other viruses can trigger the immune system to go out of control. Rheumatoid arthritis and other autoimmune conditions can accompany infections.
COVID-19 and viral arthritis

It lists a slew of other conditions brought on by COVID-19 and other viral infections. That's why aches and pains accompany influenza.

VIDEO: Trump speaks to senior citizens about COVID: "You're not vulnerable, but they like to say the vulnerable, but you're the least vulnerable — but for this one thing you are vulnerable."

https://twitter.com/therecount/statu...56068663480323

He could be talking about Social Security and Medicare which he promised to cut if he's re-elected.

Last edited by lchoro; 10-09-2020 at 03:22 PM..
 
Old 10-09-2020, 03:19 PM
 
Location: NYC
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Blondy ... He brings it on himself. When someone pulls the crap Trump does on a regular basis it's sometimes hard to tell what is an Onion story and what is not. No doubt it's wise to be skeptical of politicians in general but Trump still has the capacity to surprise.

As for Trump's doctor(s) ... I'm not going to take the time to dig up the transcripts ... but to my recall Dr. Conley when backed into a corner indicated Trump had not been on oxygen. When he 'clarified' the next day he said the reports the White House was attempting to hide the oxygen use were not "necessarily" true. Well they weren't "necessarily" false either! That "necessarily" really made me chuckle. Classic double-speak.

"The fact is no one would be questioning whether or not Trump tested prior to the debate" if Trump and those around him weren't such repeated liars. When it comes to covid, Trump lost a lot of credibility when he got on that helicopter to go visit the elderly donors in New Jersey after the White House had been informed that Hope Hicks had covid. And that's straight from Mark Meadows.

Anybody who would do that potentially is capable of a lot.
Exactly!
 
Old 10-09-2020, 04:12 PM
 
Location: Lyon, France, Whidbey Island WA
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Exactly!
Boy. Where to begin.

Neverind if you cannot trust an eminent doctor who served as an ER Team Leader in Afghanistan and more, matriculating through the ranks and chosen for his acumen and his smarts by his predecessor than you probably won't trust anyone.

No point in me adding to it.
 
Old 10-09-2020, 04:19 PM
 
Location: Lyon, France, Whidbey Island WA
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Covid and other viruses can trigger the immune system to go out of control. Rheumatoid arthritis and other autoimmune conditions can accompany infections.
As you already know most likely, the inflammatory response to Cov19 is the primary reason it kills in that the arterioles in the lungs scar. POTUS treatment was a textbook case of stopping the cascade of the inflammatory process. Earlier in April we had hydroxycholoquine and in many cases it worked. Now we have a polyclonal antibody injection and Remdesivir which are superior but not quicker.

The very exciting part of these newer medications is that they work and they work fast. We could jerk off all day wondering if the POTUS got oxygen by nasal cannula and never come up with an answer.... but that is hardly the take away.

Our President has mobilized some of the smartest people in the world the pharmaceutical industry and it's highly capable teams. He removed restrictions, reduced regulations and turned them into an army.

That is Leadership.
 
Old 10-09-2020, 04:22 PM
 
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Trump did none of the above.
 
Old 10-09-2020, 04:29 PM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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Originally Posted by Blondy View Post
This wouldn't be the first time Trump left the liberal media twisting in the wind of their own false reporting.

The fact is no one would be questioning whether or not Trump tested prior to the debate if they hadn't mistated the process and turned it into Trump showed up too late to be tested. There is literally at this point nothing to point to Trump having not tested prior to the debate. Falsely reporting that he had would likely involve a number of people including the doctor that was traveling with him. I think that is unlikely.

People who want to believe the press repeating false information are certainly free to do so.
So why won’t Trump simply say when his last negative test was?
Why the subterfuge?

Why not give people some idea of whether/when they could have been infected?
 
Old 10-09-2020, 04:33 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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So why won’t Trump simply say when his last negative test was?
Why the subterfuge?

Why not give people some idea of whether/when they could have been infected?

Let say he says his last negative test was Wednesday, most Democrats will say he is lying. Now if he says Monday, everyone will scream that he knowingly went to debate infected on Tuesday etc. So it's better for him to say nothing.
 
Old 10-09-2020, 04:33 PM
 
Location: Lyon, France, Whidbey Island WA
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So why won’t Trump simply say when his last negative test was?
Why the subterfuge?

Why not give people some idea of whether/when they could have been infected?
That type of medical information is considered private and protected health information.

He is a person as well as the POTUS.
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