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Old 10-05-2020, 10:47 AM
 
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There are many self-hating Jews. My old boss of 12 years, who I stay in touch with since my retirement is a self-hating Jew. I'm an ardent supporter of Israel and Netanyahu. He believes in the Palestinian two state solution, which is a lie. My old boss was born and raised in Manhattan. His father was a Rabbi. He claims to be agnostic. During a discussion we had one day I expressed my support for Netanyahu, and my Jewish boss said Netanyahu was an A hole. I shrugged it off. He's a New Yorker, which makes him blunt, and he's an agnostic, which frustrates him when he attempts to reconcile evil in the world without a viable answer to evil in his agnostic world view. It is the plight of many liberal democrat Jews.

The disproportionate number of Jewish democrats has much to do with most contemporary Jews being non-religious or non-practicing Jews. Because of their history Jews tend to side with the underdog. For decades, the democrats were seen as the party that stood up for the underdog, i.e., minorities, the poor, the laborer. But that has changed as the democrats became the party of the wealthy and have left those they claim to represent behind. Non-religious Jews, having forsaken their historical religious beliefs, have substituted the democrat party for their traditional Jewish faith. They have filled that emptiness in their soul created by rejected Judaism with the false religion of the DNC. There are some prominent conservative Jews, i.e. Dennis Prager, who do an excellent job expounding on the topic.
That’s generally true. Religious Jews tend to vote Republican. I was at a sukkah this weekend, just four of us socially distanced, and the talk turned to politics. All four of us are planning to vote for Trump, and all four of us are moderately observant (kosher home, etc.) at minimum.

The converse is also generally true. I personally know of only one moderately observant Jew who is voting for Biden. The others are all Reform Jews who eat bread during Passover, never learned Hebrew, and one even works on Yom Kippur. The religion seems to be liberalism.

 
Old 10-05-2020, 10:58 AM
 
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70%+ of American Jewish voters vote Democrat and the vast majority of American Jewish politicians are of the Democratic Party. So they're all self-hating Jews?
No, they just are either unaware or hold their nose over the parties association with the likes of Farrakhan and others who share his views towards jews.

The right has similar groups so most likely they just realize that there is going to be a snake in whichever tent they put their bed.
 
Old 10-05-2020, 11:27 AM
 
Location: Silicon Valley, CA
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There are many self-hating Jews. My old boss of 12 years, who I stay in touch with since my retirement is a self-hating Jew. I'm an ardent supporter of Israel and Netanyahu. He believes in the Palestinian two state solution, which is a lie. My old boss was born and raised in Manhattan. His father was a Rabbi. He claims to be agnostic. During a discussion we had one day I expressed my support for Netanyahu, and my Jewish boss said Netanyahu was an A hole. I shrugged it off. He's a New Yorker, which makes him blunt, and he's an agnostic, which frustrates him when he attempts to reconcile evil in the world without a viable answer to evil in his agnostic world view. It is the plight of many liberal democrat Jews.
Uh, there's a lot of American Jews who dislike Bibi. Heck, there's a lot of Israelis who dislike Bibi, too. And they're not one-issue voters and you just found out that they don't see eye to eye about Israel either. You're just coloring this because someone Jewish disagrees with your views on Israel.

Point is, Jewish American voters aren't monolithic in their ideology or thoughts. Just like any other group.
 
Old 10-05-2020, 11:58 AM
 
Location: Hillsboro Beach
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Starting with Jimmy Carter's Coup de Jarnac against the Shah, our bipartisan meddling in The Middle East has turned everything we touched into excrement. Only The USA has had the military and economic power to defend or to destroy the civil and social institutions of a modern civil society. In Iran, Iraq, Lebanon, Egypt, Libya, and Syria, we used that power to destroy. The single consistent beneficiary of US Middle East policy has been the arch-enemy of global Modernity and of a liberal Islam: Radical Islam. And we have thrust what now is the sole remaining outpost in The Middle East of a pluralist, liberal, and modern society, The State of Israel, into ever greater danger. Vote for the safe establishment candidates if you want to endorse the trend.
AOC as many other democrat congress rep and their followers and voters are nothing but Israel haters and the real antisemitic entities within America.
 
Old 10-05-2020, 12:01 PM
 
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Sad but true..

This is an excellent opportunity for the Jewish community to abandon the Democrats and vote for people that actually support them.
It’s not enough that you guys wanna direct the black vote; now you wanna tell the Jews what to do too, as if they’re too stupid to know where their interests are.
 
Old 10-05-2020, 12:08 PM
 
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There are many self-hating Jews. My old boss of 12 years, who I stay in touch with since my retirement is a self-hating Jew. I'm an ardent supporter of Israel and Netanyahu. He believes in the Palestinian two state solution, which is a lie. My old boss was born and raised in Manhattan. His father was a Rabbi. He claims to be agnostic. During a discussion we had one day I expressed my support for Netanyahu, and my Jewish boss said Netanyahu was an A hole. I shrugged it off. He's a New Yorker, which makes him blunt, and he's an agnostic, which frustrates him when he attempts to reconcile evil in the world without a viable answer to evil in his agnostic world view. It is the plight of many liberal democrat Jews.

The disproportionate number of Jewish democrats has much to do with most contemporary Jews being non-religious or non-practicing Jews. Because of their history Jews tend to side with the underdog. For decades, the democrats were seen as the party that stood up for the underdog, i.e., minorities, the poor, the laborer. But that has changed as the democrats became the party of the wealthy and have left those they claim to represent behind. Non-religious Jews, having forsaken their historical religious beliefs, have substituted the democrat party for their traditional Jewish faith. They have filled that emptiness in their soul created by rejected Judaism with the false religion of the DNC. There are some prominent conservative Jews, i.e. Dennis Prager, who do an excellent job expounding on the topic.
What the hell is a “self hating Jew?” What is that based on? And what’s wrong with being a non religious Jew? Only Gentiles have a right to Agnosticism?

And what does your support of Netanyahu and Israel have to do with anything?
 
Old 10-05-2020, 04:11 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Quit making excuses for Jew haters. The democrat party hate Jews.
And yet, the Jews overwhelmingly vote democrat and either own or control most of the biggest companies in the world and use their power to convince others to vote democrat, like Mark Zuckerburg.
 
Old 10-05-2020, 04:53 PM
 
Location: Houston
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I've said this before when defending Pat Buchanan...you can't equate anti-zionism with anti-semitism.

Pat ain't exactly a liberal.

Last edited by whogo; 10-05-2020 at 05:04 PM..
 
Old 10-05-2020, 05:21 PM
 
Location: USA
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Just like the Labour Party under Corbyn, the American far left is anti semitic.
And more so every year
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