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Old 10-07-2020, 11:09 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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If the initial vote count showed Biden just squeaking by, and then DOJ proved massive voter fraud...


If later evidence in November and December proved there had been massive corruption and voter fraud in favor of Biden that barely pushed him over the top... what, exactly, should Trump do?

Should he say to the American people, "Well, you've seen the evidence showing that I actually had three million more votes than the early 'official' count showed, in states that actually gave me 78 more electoral votes, and that I actually won the election. The proof is indisputable, beyond a shadow of a doubt, and the Election Commission agrees. However, to avoid making Democrats angry, I'll concede and move out in a month, on Jan. 20, 2021."

What would YOU do?
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Old 10-07-2020, 11:14 PM
 
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The same thing I did when I learned Trump had squeaked by with Russian help. It depends on the details. If its actual massive fraud? And a squeaker....then investigate it. And determine the correct winner. Lets hope this doesn't occur. Id prefer a massive win by either side then a fraudulent one.


But if its a "the Chinese had a massive operation to create confusion and as a result Biden won"? And not a voting fraud, but rather influence? The same thing I did with Trump. Accept it. People voted.



But there are no signs that is whats going to happen. The biggest threat right now is people voting multiple times because Trump told them too.
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Old 10-07-2020, 11:16 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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The same thing I did when I learned Trump had squeaked by with Russian help.
There has never been the slightest evidence that Russian meddling changed a single vote.

Democrat desperation can be measured by the fact that they keep falling back on their long-debunked lies on this hoax.
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Old 10-08-2020, 01:42 AM
 
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There has never been the slightest evidence that Russian meddling changed a single vote.

Democrat desperation can be measured by the fact that they keep falling back on their long-debunked lies on this hoax.
Please. You have to be utterly unaware of how effective propaganda is if you believe this nonsense. Trump ABSOLUTELY won because of the efforts of Russia. But as I have said before-they did not change the results from what we have seen. As such the reality is that people pulled the lever for Trump. Yeah Russia efforts helped form their votes-to me...pretty irrelevant. In the end these folks made a choice. Period. Trump is my president whether I like it or not, and he won via people voting for him. PERIOD.



And US intelligence services have detailed repeatedly that Russia interfered, just like they are now.



Im not a fan of it, any reasonable American President would put a stop to it, Trump has failed too. The only desperation I see this time around is Trump supporters thinking he isn't losing this time around. Every indication right now is that Trump is losing big time.
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Old 10-08-2020, 01:48 AM
 
Location: Texas
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The same thing I did when I learned Trump had squeaked by with Russian help. It depends on the details. If its actual massive fraud? And a squeaker....then investigate it. And determine the correct winner. Lets hope this doesn't occur. Id prefer a massive win by either side then a fraudulent one.

But if its a "the Chinese had a massive operation to create confusion and as a result Biden won"? And not a voting fraud, but rather influence? The same thing I did with Trump. Accept it. People voted.

But there are no signs that is whats going to happen. The biggest threat right now is people voting multiple times because Trump told them too.
The biggest threat is mail fraud. Your posts are absurd.
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Old 10-08-2020, 02:00 AM
 
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The biggest threat is mail fraud. Your posts are absurd.
The threat is all internal, however. The Postmaster needs to get things together as courts have demanded.

https://nypost.com/2020/10/07/nj-mai...into-dumpster/
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Old 10-08-2020, 02:16 AM
 
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I would ask my elected politicians to conduct a good faith investigation.
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Old 10-08-2020, 05:50 AM
 
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If he squeaked by AND mail fraud was proven, then we need a re-do with in-person voting only (with exceptions for people over 65 or out of their voting jurisdictions).
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Old 10-08-2020, 06:03 AM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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The biggest threat is mail fraud. Your posts are absurd.
Totally agree on both counts. We have already seen several cases of u.s. mail being discarded, with ballot's being part of those bundles.

To the OP's query, what would I do? I would support a re-vote where every person must show up at their precinct to vote...period.

If the mail-in, early voting, & absentee voting, are proven to be rife with fraud, and corruption, then we must shift to in-person voting to get to a quick decision.

In the states that have conducted vote-by-mail for 5+ years, and who have ironed out all the bugs, I'd allow them to count their initial votes, & use them for the outcome, so long as no fraud has been proven. If fraud is proven, they too must vote in person.

Any suggestions of mail or voter fraud must be immediately investigated by a bi-partisan committee, and decided upon w/in 3 days.

Military abroad would vote on base, and results sent electronically by a bi-partisan non-military committee....perhaps American Embassy members in each country.
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Old 10-08-2020, 06:04 AM
 
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Please. You have to be utterly unaware of how effective propaganda is if you believe this nonsense. Trump ABSOLUTELY won because of the efforts of Russia. But as I have said before-they did not change the results from what we have seen. As such the reality is that people pulled the lever for Trump. Yeah Russia efforts helped form their votes-to me...pretty irrelevant. In the end these folks made a choice. Period. Trump is my president whether I like it or not, and he won via people voting for him. PERIOD.



And US intelligence services have detailed repeatedly that Russia interfered, just like they are now.


Im not a fan of it, any reasonable American President would put a stop to it, Trump has failed too. The only desperation I see this time around is Trump supporters thinking he isn't losing this time around. Every indication right now is that Trump is losing big time.
Russia again? Talk about being brainwashed by propaganda.
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