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View Poll Results: Does Biden/Harris’s refusal to answer the court packing question influence your willingness to vote
It doesn’t matter, my mind is made up to vote Biden. 32 24.62%
It doesn’t matter, my mind is made up to vote Trump. 70 53.85%
It doesn’t matter, my mind is made up to vote 3rd Party. 4 3.08%
I am not firm in who I want to vote for but I absolutely can not vote Biden if he won’t answer. 15 11.54%
It could sway me to vote for Trump or a 3rd Party candidate, even though I’d prefer to vote Biden 1 0.77%
I don’t like it, but I’m not sure if ultimately it will influence my vote. 1 0.77%
I want them to pack the court so it doesn’t matter 7 5.38%
Voters: 130. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 10-08-2020, 07:49 PM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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Oh, really, which Supreme Court seats did Obama fill that were held hostage in the previous administration and not be filled by the duly elected president close to a year before Election Day? And which one did they attempt to shove through the process while people were already voting to determine who the next president will be?
Oh. This is what you were talking about when you said the GOP was court packing? I thought you were using the same stupid thing Kamala was talking about last night with the lower courts.

This isn't court packing. And the answer to this isn't ACTUAL court packing. The answer to this is to block a GOP nominee the next time the democrats hold the senate in an election year. That would be apples to apples.

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hey, I actually think I have a right to know whether Donald Trump is currently still testing positive for COVID-19, as well as when he last tested negative prior to the public release of his positive diagnosis.

I think I have a right to know if Mike Pence and Donald Trump have discussed succession planning or when it might be appropriate for a 74 year old sick with a deadly disease to potentially transition governing authority on a temporary basis.
You do realize Kamala ducked that same question, don't you?

And as long as we are discarding HIPAA regulations for Trump, I think I have a right to know Joe Biden's medication list. Is Aricept on the list? How about other drugs used to treat dementia?
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Old 10-08-2020, 07:49 PM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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Not nearly as much as the court packing the GOP has already been doing. And anyone who lies and says that's not happening should have their vote stripped. Vote for whoever you want, but own what they do.

oh and btw, I think it's more likely that Biden doesn't want to add justices to SCOTUS but is worried that is an unpopular position among those who will actually vote for him, as opposed to the GOPers who were of course never ever going to vote for him but are desperate to create some kind of bogus issue to try to distract from the sick lunatic in the White House right now
Let’s at least get the terminology right....

McConnell and Trump have STACKED THE COURT - which means they have filled vacancies of established judicial positions with conservative judges at a breakneck speed. The Democrats want to PACK THE COURT - which means they want to create new judicial positions where none have existed before so they can stick in progressive judges. The last time this nation had more than nine justices (there were 10) was during Andrew Jackson’s presidency, then it went down to seven and stayed at that number until Grant took office after the Civil War and increased it to its current nine justices. So, for 150 years we have had nine justices and you want to change it because your team isn’t the ones doing the selecting.

The Democrats might want to be careful. This is an issue that could wake a sleeping giant and doing that is one of the ways nations get destroyed.
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Old 10-08-2020, 07:52 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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This is an issue that could wake a sleeping giant and doing that is one of the ways nations get destroyed.
Nah, this is actually an issue (court appointments) that has consistently not polled very high on voters top issues.

Civil war over this seems unlikely.

We're a closely divided nation. Asking us to be governed by a 2/3 majority con court was simply a non-starter. I'm sorry.
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Old 10-08-2020, 07:53 PM
 
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100% low information baloney. Looney Tunes dude.

Considering your disposition toward gay people, I bet you were a fan of the Westboro Baptist Church.

The Supreme Court ruled to uphold free speech for them I think unanimously, or maybe it was 8-1.

Point is, the SCOTUS has broadly ruled for free speech even when some groups find it objectionable. That's not something the court sees through a political lens.

And besides, you still have 6 conservatives for life. It will be either 5 or 7 liberals at most.
We only have really 2-3 conservatives and 2 that swing vote. No one knows for sure about ACB. If Kamala packs on even 2 or 4 or more liberal Justices it's going to be liberal decisions.
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Old 10-08-2020, 07:57 PM
 
Location: Denver CO
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Oh. This is what you were talking about when you said the GOP was court packing? I thought you were using the same stupid thing Kamala was talking about last night with the lower courts.

This isn't court packing. And the answer to this isn't ACTUAL court packing. The answer to this is to block a GOP nominee the next time the democrats hold the senate in an election year. That would be apples to apples.



You do realize Kamala ducked that same question, don't you?

And as long as we are discarding HIPAA regulations for Trump, I think I have a right to know Joe Biden's medication list. Is Aricept on the list? How about other drugs used to treat dementia?
Shame on you if you really are an MD. You should know better than to diagnose a person you have never examined, never mind the willful blindness your claim that Biden has dementia requires to ignore the MUCH MUCH more evident signs of problems with Trump's mental capacity. And note, I am not a medical clinician making any diagnosis, just giving a layperson's opinions of very visible symptoms. But someone who holds themselves out to to be a physician is held to a higher professional standard.
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Old 10-08-2020, 07:58 PM
 
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The answer to this is to block a GOP nominee the next time the democrats hold the senate in an election year. That would be apples to apples.
Why do Republicans always get to be the offender first? Just don't do anything before they do? And if they do something terrible, then follow that up with something worse, still don't do anything worse? Come on.

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The Democrats might want to be careful. This is an issue that could wake a sleeping giant and doing that is one of the ways nations get destroyed.
But it's okay for the GOP to refuse to even have a vote for a Democratic president's nominee almost a year before? That doesn't destroy a nation when a party makes a claim in one direction that favors them, then does the exact opposite four years later when it favors them?
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Old 10-08-2020, 08:00 PM
 
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Its honestly very scary. I hope people start to take them seriously, when they say or withhold to say what they want to do.
It basically says HE WILL pack the court.

Democrats have a habit of opening a can of worms. IF Biden was elected and did it, we can count on the next republican doing a quid pro quo.
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Old 10-08-2020, 08:03 PM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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Shame on you if you really are an MD. You should know better than to diagnose a person you have never examined, never mind the willful blindness your claim that Biden has dementia requires to ignore the MUCH MUCH more evident signs of problems with Trump's mental capacity. And note, I am not a medical clinician making any diagnosis, just giving a layperson's opinions of very visible symptoms. But someone who holds themselves out to to be a physician is held to a higher professional standard.
Where are you getting all of this? You want information from Trump's medical records? Fine. I want information from Biden's medical records. I didn't diagnose anything in my post. I just asked for information.
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Old 10-08-2020, 08:06 PM
 
Location: A Nation Possessed
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Their refusal to answer that question matters the same as their refusal to answer all the other questions concerning the destruction of our political system and their planned leftist takeover; that is to say, I wouldn't trust either of them as far as I could throw them.
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Old 10-08-2020, 08:07 PM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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Why do Republicans always get to be the offender first? Just don't do anything before they do? And if they do something terrible, then follow that up with something worse, still don't do anything worse? Come on.

They don't always get to be the offender first. Do we really need to go through history to find all the times the democrats were the offender first? This is DC politics we are talking about.

I am saying, if you want payback, then do something proportional. If you want escalation, do something disproportional, like court packing.
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