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If he drew his gun and was maced then he just won an encounter he initiated , which is not self defense. It would be unjustifiable homicide.
Agree. He just tried to take advantage of a situation he was partly responsible for to kill someone. That's what it looks like so far, but all the facts will have to come out.
Even if the shooter had mace fired at him first and he drew and fired it'd be hard to justify.
I guarantee if a uniformed officer of the law and during the course of his duty shot someone (especially if that person is black) for macing him, that cop will be charged for homicide. Especially during this time during GeorgeFloyd era and in a liberal control city like Denver.
In Atlanta a police officer got charged with murder for shooting someone who was firing a taser at him. That was the "Wendy's" shooting.
And a taser is far more debilitating than pepper spray.
In Atlanta a police officer got charged with murder for shooting someone who was firing a taser at him. That was the "Wendy's" shooting.
And a taser is far more debilitating than pepper spray.
Yup, especially two weeks after the same DA charged & terminated 4 APD cops for tasing some protesters and claim that taser is a deadly weapon under GA law.
They were 10 feet apart when the alleged antifa guy shot him.
You are trying to distract from the facts. One shooting pepper spray, one shooting bullets.
Clear case of murder.
Ok, but why are you saying he’s Antifa when the cops said he isn’t? So far as I can tell, you and a few other people on an Internet forum are the only ones “alleging.” What a sad thing to do to without any evidence.
Sure you can.
If a cop gets sprayed with pepper spray, they would be justified in shooting.
Why?
Because if the cop is incapacitated, or security guard in this case, the thug could take his weapon and use it on him.
From a self defense point of view, you are correct.
But private security guards are not cops. Private security guard represents the interest of their clients, whereas cops are sworn public officials. Thus, security guards do not enjoy the same protection like cops do. There is a reason why attacking a cop carries a heavier penalty under the law than attacking a citizen/security guard.
That hasn't worked out so well for Rittenhouse who is sitting in a jail cell where he belongs. Had he not gone out trying to provoke trouble he wouldn't be there. The streets are safer with him locked up just like they'll be safer when the guy in Colorado who shot and killed the person is locked up. I have no doubt both are a threat to society and will only try to provoke violence if they're out on the streets.
Again, people who go out looking for trouble and go out looking to provoke violence find things don't work out for them. You're making it a political issue but that's not the way civilized people act period, whether or not they think their "side" is right.
yep, if either had been at home, eating out, working....instead of roaming the streets looking for trouble, none of them would be dead or in jail. All of these extremists are crawling out of the woodwork and taking advantage of the crazy state of affairs to act out their anger.
Professional security guard lol. Now liberals who tell us police are biased and unprofessional are saying security guards are consummate professionals.
He is professional since he does it for living.
Either way, he took a life and is now at the mercy of the legal system like Kyle Rittenhouse. I think both will end up in prison.
Ok, but why are you saying he’s Antifa when the cops said he isn’t? So far as I can tell, you and a few other people on an Internet forum are the only ones “alleging.” What a sad thing to do to without any evidence.
He can be both Antifa and a "security guard". The question would be why would some organization hire Antifa as "security" when covering a conservative rally-unless they were planning to instigate violence and hide behind the label of "security"?
He can be both Antifa and a "security guard". The question would be why would some organization hire Antifa as "security" when covering a conservative rally-unless they were planning to instigate violence and hide behind the label of "security"?
Sure he can, but the Denver Police Department said he does not appear to have any affiliation with Antifa. Why are we assuming otherwise with zero evidence?
I am completely willing to change my view as evidence is made available, but why assume something opposite of what the cops are saying without any evidence?
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