Why Isn't Any Candidate Urging It? Breaking Up The Country! (Obama, felons)
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The problems we have today states do not want to handle on a state level. States balked on setting up Obamacare exchanges and expanding Medicaid. A number of states haven't raised minimum wage in a decade, some don't even have one.
All perfectly Constitutional. How is any of that a problem?
And lest you think red states are the problem with income inequality, they're not. Blue states and cities have the widest income gaps. That's how California can be the 5th largest economy in the world while having 12% of the US population but 34% of the US population on public assistance.
States are for this purpose. They handle the majority of government services and personalize their government services for the way their region prefers it.
You counter yourself in your statement when you say “one separate country” and then say “4 or 5 countries within this country.” That’s what states are and what states do.
Never will understand why idiot Leftists just can't seem to understand this.
Here are these liberal fantasies again. Why do they bring up "Handmaid's Tale" so often? It is weird.
I would love to get rid of libs and just have rational people who will work in the US. The libs could have all the "diversity", all the trannies, pedophiles, and homeless (who are staunch dems).
Liberals are the ones who are the real totalitarians, advocating violence to achieve their political goals and focusing on taking other people's money. Have you been in a coma for the last four months?
Right, let's ignore where all the revenue is generated. But arguing is a waste of time, glad to hear you support the breakup of the country in order to be rid of liberals. Enjoy your right wing evangelical judges in Gilead, we want no part of it and we're very tired of paying for you. Learn to pay your own bills, fund the billions in farmer handouts yourselves, pay for coal miner pensions yourselves, send a billion dollars to Kentucky yourselves. Watching you guys do without the money liberals generate will be the best part. Feel free to disagree on any point, just agree to break up the country - the point of this thread - and we're good.
If any split is going to occur it is going to follow an urban / rural divide. Urban living is a lifestyle of total dependence on others for basic survival. Urban people depend on others for food, water, heat, electricity, transportation, infrastructure, home maintenance, healthcare and personal safety to name just a handful. Rural people are much more self sufficient than urban people. Any split of the country may make life a little harder for rural folks but they will adapt and continue to survive. The real question is how the cities adapt when the rural people are no longer on friendly business terms with the cities. City living, with its inherent dependency issues is much more ripe for disruption. It amazes me that the people of the cities are so arrogant and in denial of their weaknesses stemming from their dependency.
We don't need 50 united states anymore, isn't it time to break up the country into 4 or 5 parts? One separate country, Pacifica, CA/OR/WA and throw in British Columbia. CA is a little larger than Germany, by the way. And TX is larger than France with nuclear weapons.
The Deep South can be a refuge for the evangelicals with abortion being illegal.
I don't understand why no aspiring political candidate isn't bringing this issue up.
It would certainly make the election season far more interesting, watching the elections in 4 or 5 countries within this country.
No aspiring candidate wants to do that. It's political suicide to do so. Presidential candidates who run for that office want to be President of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, not some broken up nation. The Civil War is an example of this country trying that before, and it didn't work.
Some states could pull it off, like California and Texas. However, there would be alot of problems. Funny that you mention the Deep South. The Deep South states have a very polarized political culture. If the Deep South states were to break off, sure, the Religious Right-Wing would get the place they wanted, but not uniformly. There would be some racial cleavages going on. More African-Americans live in the South than any other region. Most Blacks vote Democrat while the majority of Whites vote Republican in the South. While most Blacks are Protestant Christians, they aren't part of the Religious Right.
We don't need to be broken up. What we need is for the states to be empowered again and for the federal government to shrink. Keep taxpayer dollars closer to municipalities and states with the exception of funding for very specific federal needs (military, etc.).
That way, the people can decide how to run their states.
When states had more power, policies like Jim Crow were being put into place. Certain people were denied their rights. This is why I don't trust "states rights" to a certain extent.
If any split is going to occur it is going to follow an urban / rural divide. Urban living is a lifestyle of total dependence on others for basic survival. Urban people depend on others for food, water, heat, electricity, transportation, infrastructure, home maintenance, healthcare and personal safety to name just a handful. Rural people are much more self sufficient than urban people. Any split of the country may make life a little harder for rural folks but they will adapt and continue to survive. The real question is how the cities adapt when the rural people are no longer on friendly business terms with the cities. City living, with its inherent dependency issues is much more ripe for disruption. It amazes me that the people of the cities are so arrogant and in denial of their weaknesses stemming from their dependency.
Urban areas could import food much cheaper than what they are paying now. We send hundreds of billions of dollars to farmers and then pay again at the supermarket. An ear of corn is about $25. now, who would miss that? In western Washington we have hydropower. We support mass transit, bike lanes and electric vehicles. Let the rurals pay the farmer handouts and coal miner pensions. Let the rurals give a billion dollars to Kentucky. In our metro alone we have Microsoft, Amazon, Costco, Eddie Bauer, Starbucks and Expedia, just to name a few of the headquarters. Seriously, what are you going to threaten us with? We send $3 billion a year to 33 other counties in the state. Are you going to threaten us with keeping our $3 billion a year? Or the massive amounts of federal taxes we pay as a giver state?
Not sure why you thinking threatening us with our own freedom is going to make anyone want to stay in your twisted view of what freedom looks like under the religious hierarchy Republicans want. Taking gay marriage away because you don't like gays only hurts you. Making it impossible for immigrants to harvest crops in rural areas while the crops die in the fields only hurts you. Forcing you to pay for your own freeways from one state to the next, forcing you to pay for your own broadband and infrastructure? All you. And abortion? You pay for the forced birth from poverty stricken, often drug addicted mothers. You pay for their housing, their welfare and they reduced school lunches. Don't look to urban areas to keep padding those costs. Do you really think Kentucky deserved a billion dollars in the last federal budget just because McConnell is running for re-election? Good, you pay it.
I lived in NY State up until the 90's. They were gonna break up the state seemed like every decade or so.
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