Christopher Columbus did not discover America. (suspect, school, murder, work)

[Mircea]

Originally Posted by burdell

But they didn't discover it either, the people living here knew it was here.

No, they did not.

That's what you get for drinking the "Native American" Kool-Aid.

The Zuni, Hopi, Navajo, Utes, Piautes and others in the western US had no freaking idea that the Adena, Hopewell and others were living around the Great Lakes, much less the Seminoles in southern Florida.

They didn't even know there was an east coast, because they had no freaking idea how big the US was.

The Mohawks, Mohicans and others living in the New England area had no freaking idea there was a west coast or a Gulf coast.

They didn't even know there was a Mississippi River.

Originally Posted by bmexman

The person who discovered America was probably some guy who got lost hunting woolly mammoths.

Well, the guy who discovered South American was a sailor who sailed from the region of Indonesia/Australia.

He landed in northern Chile about 35,000 years ago.

Then his descendants migrated around the coast to the Amazon Basin where they were hunting giant sloths about 25,000 years ago.

Originally Posted by bmexman

The first Europeans in America were Norse Vikings. Where are the Thor statues?

No, the first Europeans were here 12,000 to 25,000 years ago.

People living in Dagestan/Kazakhstan migrated into Anatolia displacing the people there.

That displaced population became the Neolithic farmers who displaced the population in Western Europe.

The displaced population in Western Europe migrated into the British Isles and displaced the population there who sailed from Scotland to Iceland to Greenland to Newfoundland/Nova Scotia.

Since there were no people to displace, they were happy for a while.

The Adena and Hopewell are two of about a dozen tribal groups known to have been exterminated in mass genocides by other tribal groups long before colonists ever arrived here.

There is evidence to suggest the genocide of the Hopewell by the Plains tribal groups was racially motivated. The Hopewell were a few inches taller than most other tribal groups and may have had other distinguishing physical characteristics.

[SPECFRCE]

Originally Posted by Lital_The_Best

The natives were not the peaceful angels some may want you to believe. Yes, some of the tribes were indeed peaceful but many of the tribes fought each other, were brutal long before the white man came in. The White man just capitalized on the conflicts. Many forget that a lot of the natives participated in chattel slavery, which is why you have a lot of Blacks mixed with Native blood.

There's a piece of a history for the fans albeit- off topic.

The point: Columbus did not discover thee America's.

I appreciate your contribution as I'm certain many have never heard this piece of information.

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Originally Posted by moneill

Let's be clear. Columbus was not doing this for the Italians...it was the Spaniards that funded his endeavour.

Obviously.


It would be like an American being sent to the moon by the Russians.......not the Americans sending an American to the moon.


..Sure!

[PotatoMan]

People just can’t stand the FACT that Europeans mapped the stars, sailed the seas and discovered everything significant on this earth while our malcontents didn’t even invent the wheel.

[Sohei]

Meh...I wasn't there and it really doesn't matter who discovered it as it won't change a single thing in reality. I certainly won't lose sleep over it or make it a keyboard fight.

[HansProof]

America discovered the moon, all that matters

[Sohei]

Originally Posted by HansProof

America discovered the moon, all that matters

Indeed you are correct sir! Excellent point....

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Originally Posted by Retroit

If you heard about the death through TMZ, you credit TMZ for informing you of said death. When people recall where they were and what they were doing when they heard that JFK was killed, it doesn’t mean that JFK was killed where they were at the time. Discovery is relative to the person/people doing the discovery. If you open your front door and discover a FedEx package, you don’t commemorate the FedEx driver dropping it off, you commemorate receiving it.

Yes and you're where are you heading exactly?

Adding a bit of humor from some fella; sums up your relative argument.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqXz_gfwx0A

[Robert&Ripley]

From the old Roseanne show circa 1991, when Darlene had to write about Christopher Columbus:

"Christopher Columbus - heroic explorer or scumball from Spain?"

[Somnifor]

Originally Posted by hawkeye2009

If there were statues to the Vikings, BLM and ANTIFA would have torn them down.

In Minnesota there was a statue of Columbus on one side of the Capital and another of Leif Erickson on the other side. After the George Floyd riots a local native American group tore down the Columbus statue and left the Erickson statue untouched. Why? Many of the Dakota and Ojibwe who make up the bulk of the local native population still hold a bit of a grudge about being nearly wiped out and losing their land and see Columbus as the starting point of that process. Leif Erickson on the other hand was just a brave guy who sailed across the ocean and then went home.