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Suburbs are part of the metro areas where the jobs are and where 85% of US economic output is generated. Why do people live in metro areas? Jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs......
NYC metro alone generates as much as the entire nation of Canada.
Suburbs are often republican-controlled, which was what I was pointing out.
Democrats just happen to control more populated areas overall.
Of course there’s more economic output where more people actually live. That’s a no-brainer.
Forests, hills, and water aren’t going to make consumer goods by themselves.
That cities have more economic output over sparsely-populated countryside has nothing whatsoever do to with what political machine happens to be in charge.
We would all be wearing masks, vaccinated to death (literally), chipped, own no private property, have no weapons, be kept at a distance from one another, under constant surveillance with that chip, and when one was costing too much in health care expenses, that person would be terminated especially those that were older or disabled. The wealthy class would rise like never before, and everyone else would be nothing but servants.
Say every single state, city, suburb, town, and every square inch of America were completely Democrat, what do you think it would like? We'd live in a utopia or a society where there is no class system, where everyone was equal, where we would all have full available access to whatever healthcare we needed, where there is never any need for war, where just all love and care for each other?
Venezuela. 90% poverty, hyper inflation, non-existent government services, high crime, etc, etc. Not my idea of utopia, but a perfect case study of what happens when the idiotic policies of the Democrats are attempted in the real world.
See my response to #2 above. Also Trumps tax cuts included a 3% cut to the middle class tax brackets. Despite Biden's promise that they are only going to raise them on those making over $400K a year, he's saying he will get rid of all the Trump tax cuts. I don't trust them not to raise middle class taxes back up 3%, if not more.
The problem is that the original iteration of those cuts had an expiration date and they'll add considerably to the nation's long-term debt. At some point, we're going to have to get that under control (however that's done is another convo altogether).
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Suburbs are often republican-controlled, which was what I was pointing out.
Democrats just happen to control more populated areas overall.
Of course there’s more economic output where more people actually live. That’s a no-brainer.
Forests, hills, and water aren’t going to make consumer goods by themselves.
That cities have more economic output over sparsely-populated countryside has nothing whatsoever do to with what political machine happens to be in charge.
Nothing to do with it? The argument here is that these liberal metro areas are total failures, and yet somehow they generate 85% of US economic output.
It sounds like you are trying to have it both ways:
1. Everything bad about these areas is caused by the 'political machine'
2. None of the good things about these areas are caused by the 'political machine'
Seems hypocritical.
Sure, where there are high concentrations of people, there is going to be more crime, traffic etc, but at the same time they generate a lot in terms of economic output.
As long as people are allowed to be individuals and have freedom of thought, there will never be utopia...and no society should be compared against or held to that standard. People have differing opinions, abilities, appearance,etc. All of those things make for disparities among individuals and it will always be that way.
Unless the State has complete control, which I do not advocate for with either party.
This is the truest to reality answer. I don't subscribe to either party even though I have some beliefs that align with both.
There are too many of those so hard in their thinking that they truly forget that, at the end of the day, we are all individual thinking beings. For a country so large the party extremes seem very tribalistic. God forbid the State takes complete control.
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Nothing to do with it? The argument here is that these liberal metro areas are total failures, and yet somehow they generate 85% of US economic output.
It sounds like you are trying to have it both ways:
1. Everything bad about these areas is caused by the 'political machine'
2. None of the good things about these areas are caused by the 'political machine'
Seems hypocritical.
Sure, where there are high concentrations of people, there is going to be more crime, traffic etc, but at the same time they generate a lot in terms of economic output.
Red vs Blue politics has only been around since 2000. It's a bit early to say we know how D or R domination of a place for many decades will end. Early evidence suggest it's not good on either side: D's raise taxes and the middle class and many rich flee, living behind extreme inequality. R's don't properly fund public infrastructure or education, they end up with many bad paying bad quality jobs.
Say every single state, city, suburb, town, and every square inch of America were completely Democrat, what do you think it would like? We'd live in a utopia or a society where there is no class system, where everyone was equal, where we would all have full available access to whatever healthcare we needed, where there is never any need for war, where just all love and care for each other?
Detroit. That's a pretty accurate picture. Or San Francisco. Or Baltimore.
Detroit. That's a pretty accurate picture. Or San Francisco. Or Baltimore. Not fun places to live.
And yet 80% of US population live in these evil metro areas, and they generate 85% of our economic output.
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