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By voluntary autonomous zones , I mean geographical areas that would receive similar/essentially the same rights as ( f.ex ) present day Native American reservations ...
I.E. CHAZ like places that would actually have a great degree of political autonomy ...
I personally think it would be a worthwhile experiment because ( IMHO ) far too many people these days are all to eager to get up in each other's faces and could thus use some cooling off , via having their own community where they could do what they wanted without having to be around those they dislike .
Not to mention that I think such measures could eventually lead to a return to broad based support for true and proper coexistence , since many ( if not most ) of those setting up these voluntary autonomous zones would realize that it's much harder to exist outside of mainstream society than within it , and would as a result put aside/ease up on their current grievances .
In short just like the failure of most hippie communes contributed to the end of the tumultuous era of the counterculture , methinks the failure of these sorts of zones would contribute to the end of our current political/social malaise .
Anyways tell me what ya think folks , cause I'm sure as smoke curious .
P.S. I'm only referring to legitimate ( i.e. non criminal ) demographic groups receiving the right to set up these sorts of zones , in other words murderers , rapists , thieves and so forth would most certainly not be included .
Such "zones" would still depnd in large part on exiting taxpayer-funded infrasuretature such as road, etc., so I don't see how this would be workable realistically, Even if it were to be pursued, the treaties would likley be largely against the intrersts of these "zones". Would they them enter trieaties with other counties for import and export? No, if your start to think through the practicalities it doesn't make any sense.
Hmm... are native americans allowed to literally do whatever they want on their reservations or must they abide by federal laws? I'm curious as I've never really thought about it. Sounds fun! Try it and see what happens!
Hmm... are native americans allowed to literally do whatever they want on their reservations or must they abide by federal laws? I'm curious as I've never really thought about it. Sounds fun! Try it and see what happens!
Perhaps I should clarify , so here it goes :
This sort of affair would not in the least mean that federal law as such would be done away with , merely that locally formed and based grassroots communities would gain newfound political autonomy ( and everything that goes with it ) should they choose to exercise said right .
In other words ( just like present day Native American reservations ) they would still have to follow certain federal laws , however they would at the same time enjoy a great degree of autonomy .
To reiterate , it's not the creation of many different countries I'm referring to , but the extension of the right to form intentional communities according to/based on already existing constitutional/American cultural principles .
A lot of states and now indian reservations legalize marijuana (and sometimes magic mushrooms) despite the federal government's having them as controlled substances. I wonder if these zones could do the same? Could they legalize meth and heroin if they wanted? I assume not, because the government could technically go after these legal states, they just don't.
What kinds of things do you envision them doing that they can't do already? You mean like have their own police force? They could technically move and start their own community somewhere else... that would take a huge amount of work though. Also the people who own the buildings might not like the idea of having them handed over to these autonomous zones. You would have to have majority consensus, and I bet these protesters are a very small minority, assuming they live in the area they are protesting. Not criticizing just pondering and thinking out loud....
Well the radical leftists tried it this year and two black people were shot and killed and several others were injured.
Also, the police department in their zone was abandoned and the response time of the local police tripled or worse.
Not to mention all the damage and loss of business occurred.
It collapsed under its own weight, kind of like most other socialist utopias.
Along with the things you've already mentioned, business owners in Seattle are now suing the city for loss of business, extorsion by CHOP inhabitants, and more. A Federal Judge just okayed the suit to move forward after the city tried to have it dismissed.
Yes but not for or based on a political group, organization or ideology, just for recognized members of a historical native group such as Indians, whites and blacks.
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